Earnings journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by TheBigShort, Jan 13, 2019.

  1. TheBigShort

    TheBigShort

    Right! But before that event LULU moved on average 7% with one previous move larger than 25%(when the company was still fairly new). In order to price these moves in, you would need to charge a pretty outrageous premium which may be unreasonable considering we dont really know how big the moves can be until they happen.

    The spreads have cost me quite a bit + the extra commission
     
    #81     Jan 23, 2019
  2. srinir

    srinir

    No trades today, Got sick, probably couple of days to recover
     
    #82     Jan 23, 2019
  3. srinir

    srinir

    Ya, Theoretically agree with him. It does comes to size of the trade. One needs to do more Bfly, instead of straddles structure. Another issue is fills, it is much easier get filled on straddles than Bfly.
     
    #83     Jan 23, 2019
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  4. Always. Buy. Wings.

    Buy them as cheaply as you can, as far out as you like, but buy them. Buy then even if you think the expectation on the individual Far-OTM options is negative (it probaby is but buy anyway).

    The point of buying wings is to protect against tail risk... at the cost of giving up some edge. You are on the right track, you just need to avoid blowing out your account and having to start over. Accept a slower path to your first $billion for greater chance of actually getting there.

    Price that TIF straddle if the move had been 50% or even 75% instead of 25% to see what the actual damage could have been. You don't have enough in your account to diversify into 200 simultaneous uncorrelated short straddles (and earnings straddles are more correlated than they appear) so you can either buy the wings, trade only the long straddles, or trade so small you risk very little on each straddle.

    Also, as an added bonus, if your risk controls are based on "shocking" (usually 15% against you on underlying), your buying power will go way up when you buy the wings.
     
    #84     Jan 24, 2019
  5. TheBigShort

    TheBigShort

    Positions were really small, so not a big day, but closed both straddles for a nice winner's.

    AAL for 1.65 +.35
    LUV for 2.20 +.45

    This is a very insightful post. I will be buying the delta 1-5 wings for a few pennies and selling a straddle, only to close the straddle the following day and keep the wings as a lotto + it's a good hedge if we ever get a 15% drop in the overall market over a short time period.

    Will keep you guys posted on my trades today
     
    #85     Jan 24, 2019
  6. ironchef

    ironchef

    If I take your logic to the extreme, why don't I just buy tails? Especially when they are cheap? But then how do I know whether they are cheap?
     
    #86     Jan 24, 2019
  7. destriero

    destriero


    You're buying the wings at -edge.

    The edge loss knowing that the vol-figure is unsustainable. You can't price the gamma so you're paying for the stop. Cheap in dollars, not vol.
     
    #87     Jan 24, 2019
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  8. TheBigShort

    TheBigShort

    INTC long straddle for 2.35
    WDC Short 40 straddle 3.75 BOT wings for 9 cents.

    LEA looks like it has a ton of edge but I have not had enough time do research.

    Also I recently fell in love with violin plots, they paint a nice picture. Maybe some of you will fall in love as well. Absolute move by quarter for WDC (11 samples per quarter). Anova test does not reject that any of the quarters come from a different distro. But it's nice to look at

    factor.PNG
     
    #88     Jan 24, 2019
  9. Overnight

    Overnight

    Is it me or does number 3 look a lot like a silhouette of The Grinch?
     
    #89     Jan 24, 2019
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  10. TheBigShort

    TheBigShort

    Looks like a major win on both positions. Woohoo LOL
     
    #90     Jan 24, 2019
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