Earnings & Events-Related Option Plays

Discussion in 'Options' started by arizonadreamer, Oct 24, 2007.

  1. spindr0

    spindr0

    Hey Pizza Boy! (g). Since we picked up the idea from Born29 on Yahoo (IV Trader here), I have become a big fan of ratioed double reverse calendars 1-2 weeks before expiration (sounds like a bad Olympic dive with 7.2 difficulty). Sometimes I add a next strike OTM kicker to soften the effect of the extra short legs.

    Everything has risk but these don't have a lot if you blow out ASAP after the quarterly EA.

    Spin
     
    #11     Oct 25, 2007
  2. spindr0

    spindr0

    And sometimes, not waiting is worse. You watch the price and when it's acceptable, you take it. Skip the 20/20 hindisght. Sometimes, EA plays offer better prices a day or two earlier. Sometimes, it's near the close. You never know. And once in a looong while, late day IV change makes it worthwhile to get out before the EA.
     
    #12     Oct 25, 2007
  3. Spin,

    Good to see you are still "ordering takeout." :)

    The ratioed double reverse calendar. I think I know what you mean. You'll have to share an example (real or hypothetical) so that the rest of us mere mortals understand for sure what tricks you have up your sleeve.

    I'm not doing too many of these earnings plays any more, mainly index plays.

    Watch your neck for those dives. :)

    AZD
     
    #13     Oct 25, 2007
  4. Div_Arb

    Div_Arb

    I got sent through the buzzsaw playing FFIV into earnings back in April. I did a condor that was waaayy out of the money, only to have the stock rise something like 20% after earnings announcement and blow through not only my short strike, but the long strike of my calls. This worked extremely well back in January when the stock didn't budge after earnings, but the skew was 40 or 50 points. I got greedy and paid the price!

     
    #14     Oct 25, 2007
  5. Div_Arb,

    That's just it. What works well for a while suddenly doesn't work. These announcements are difficult to predict (the actual data and the market reaction to the data) and it is usually best to enter with a small position. At least you weren't 100% uncovered with those calls!

    AZD
     
    #15     Oct 25, 2007
  6. Anyone going to BIDU today?

    I would also like to see an example of the reverse double-triple twist backflip with a kick.

    Is that anything like a batman trade, but with the time spread thrown in?
     
    #16     Oct 25, 2007
  7. Folks, look at WCG.

    Around 43.6, down over 71. But the way OTM calls have bids. .50 for the Nov 90 calls. NOT a recommendation for anything, but for those inclined to take on this type of unpredictable risk (hey, what's a raid or two?), then it should be interesting.

    AZD
     
    #17     Oct 25, 2007
  8. I am waiting to see what the IV and underlying are doing < 30 minutes or 1 hr before the close. Yes, Spin's acrobatic activities would be interesting to witness here.

    AZD
     
    #18     Oct 25, 2007
  9. Update: I decided to do a 2:3 ratio on the Nov 460 calls and 470 calls for a small credit. Just going for pizza money.

    AZD
     
    #19     Oct 25, 2007
  10. Good luck.....Looks like your trade is the only BIDU live trade, I'm just watching.
     
    #20     Oct 25, 2007