Earn 2 Trade the gauntlet

Discussion in 'Prop Firms' started by caacapital, Jun 25, 2018.

  1. nickynoes

    nickynoes

    I sent the question to Helios and they replied within 20 minutes that I will not need it to receive any part of the profits and that I probably won't even be able to apply for one until I get I receive my tax return. My plan is to stash away 40% of my profits for the tax return in the meantime and then apply for the ITIN and pay the tax return when it is time.
     
    #711     Jul 9, 2019
  2. p0box4

    p0box4

    You do realize you need to pay taxes in both the USA and in Sweden as long as you do not have an ITIN, right?

    Make sure to get the ITIN before the end of the year so you can get back the 30% taxes Helios has to withhold from your profit as long as you do not have an ITIN.

    You can request an ITIN as soon as you have your contract stating that you are a partner at Helios.
     
    #712     Jul 9, 2019
  3. Earn2Trade-Ryan

    Earn2Trade-Ryan Sponsor

    Helios does not have to withhold anything.
     
    #713     Jul 9, 2019
  4. p0box4

    p0box4

    Here is a quote from an email you send me Ryan:

    "You can withdraw without an ITIN but we'd have to withhold 30% until you get an ITIN (which isn't needed technically until tax time) that proves any tax exempt status. Once you do, we can forward back that 30%."

    Edit, i have attached a screenshot i case anyone doesn't believe me :rolleyes:

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    #714     Jul 9, 2019
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  5. Earn2Trade-Ryan

    Earn2Trade-Ryan Sponsor

    I understand. That was also several months ago. Things change. Not long after you were no longer with Helios, the Helios CPA stated that generally there is no withholdings because profits on futures are not considered ECI. https://taxmap.irs.gov/taxmap/pubs/p519-014.htm
     
    #715     Jul 9, 2019
  6. nickynoes

    nickynoes

    I have been down this train of thought, in Sweden we have a thing called 'dubbelbeskattningsavtal' with the US which literally translates into double taxation agreement which helps Swedish citizens avoid having to pay taxes twice. I have sent an inquiry to our version of the IRS asking some questions and I am still waiting for a response.

    Have you had to get an ITIN?
     
    #716     Jul 9, 2019
  7. p0box4

    p0box4

    Unfortunately i lost the account in the second stage after the Gauntlet, however i spent a crazy amount of time to figure things out about the ITIN and other related documents.

    I live in Belgium and we also have a tax treaty with the USA, however this tax treaty only applies if you have an ITIN and report taxes to the US government and your own government.

    Also make sure that the tax treaty Sweden has with the USA does cover this kind of income. Most likely it will cover it but better be safe than sorry.

    I still think E2T and Helios are one of the best funding companies out there, the only reason i didn't went back is because of the complicated situation regarding the ITIN.

    You are in good hands at E2T/Helios, just make sure to get a good accountant who has experience in doing business with the USA, you don't wont to get in trouble with IRS.
     
    #717     Jul 9, 2019
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  8. Earn2Trade-Ryan

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    Shouldn't be too complicated =) You don't need one until you file the tax return and there shouldn't be any withholdings.
     
    #718     Jul 9, 2019
  9. p0box4

    p0box4

    Also, keep us up to date about your process if you like. Both regarding the trading and the ITIN and other documents.

    If things go well for you i might take another attempt at their Gauntlet.
     
    #719     Jul 9, 2019
  10. p0box4

    p0box4

    Should't i have the ITIN before the end of 2019 to avoid having to pay taxes for 2019?
    By the time i have to file my taxes in 2020 the taxable year of 2019 is gone, right?

    At least that is how it would work here in Belgium.
     
    #720     Jul 9, 2019