E-mini slippage

Discussion in 'Order Execution' started by Alexandre, Apr 12, 2006.

what's the maximum ES size you feel comfortable trading without experiencing slippage

  1. between 50 to 100 contracts

    12 vote(s)
    31.6%
  2. between 100 to 200

    8 vote(s)
    21.1%
  3. between 200 to 300

    1 vote(s)
    2.6%
  4. between 300 to 400

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. between 400 to 500

    1 vote(s)
    2.6%
  6. between 500 to 600

    1 vote(s)
    2.6%
  7. between 600 to 700

    2 vote(s)
    5.3%
  8. between 700 to 800

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. between 800 to 900

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. above 900

    13 vote(s)
    34.2%
  1. this is no conspiracy theory, it's better, faster and technologically superior trading implemented by some high frequency trading hedge funds.
     
    #21     Apr 12, 2006
  2. yes, in a figurative sense, these are more high frequency trading hedge funds
     
    #22     Apr 12, 2006
  3. true, even easier to do on the FDAX after hours
     
    #23     Apr 12, 2006
  4. That's what I meant with my post, but not here to put words in your mouth.
     
    #24     Apr 12, 2006
  5. sorry I didn't get it. thanks
     
    #25     Apr 12, 2006
  6. romik

    romik

    come on now, trading 100 lots the value of 1 tick should not be substantial to the value of trading capital. I am sure $1250 is around 0.1-0.2% of your trading capital.

    EDIT: I believe I misundestood you
     
    #26     Apr 12, 2006
  7. Everyone thinks thier orders are the last to be executed.

    Must be true.
     
    #27     Apr 12, 2006
  8. 40Deuce

    40Deuce

    Alexander-
    you need to conduct some cntr party analysis before you start chiming in like you know whats going on in ES . . . esp. with the hedgies

    depending on what you quantify as "high frequency" . . . the only hedgie that is playing close to a figurative "market making" role is a fund (ironically, based in Chicago) that comes thru Barclays Capital

    if you know/ think otherwise, would love to hear your input



     
    #28     Apr 12, 2006
  9. fair enough, I'm not saying I know who is doing what, I'm just try to infer what people with superior access to technology could do and benefit from other people's negative edge and possibly influence it.

    There must be arbitrage relationships one can exploit with the ES, especially when combining that with the SP and cash trading. Not sure anybody does it though.

    It's difficult to know what hedge funds are precisely doing with the ES. I would be surprised if funds like Rentech, De Shaw, BGI or Ikos didn't get involved, but how?

    Maybe you can shed some light on who the big players are in the ES?
     
    #29     Apr 12, 2006
  10. 1000

    1000

    How long have you been trading for?

    100% up in the last 5mts would suggest 1 point per day for 100 days?

    Are you trading 1 point a day, daytrading or swinging?
     
    #30     Apr 12, 2006