Dutch trial begins for anti-Islam Politician

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by Clubber Lang, Oct 31, 2016.

  1. Good1

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    In marketing they say what sells are things you don't explicitly mention. it came across clearly to me (from reading 80% of Wilders statement), that it was a political attempt to squash the leading political opponent. He did mention how such things take place in backward countries like Iran.

    But I don't see how they can stop him, and his speech was as much to the two million potential voters (for him), as it was to the court. As it was a pretty good speech, it is worth a lot of votes, and they need to price that in to thier damage control.
     
    #21     Nov 24, 2016
  2. I have thus searched from when Wilders started to complain about "witchhunt", "smear campain".
    It started between between 2010 and 2012
    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3306/geert-wilders-smear
    http://www.jewishideasdaily.com/4825/features/lambs-to-the-slaughter/
    ( the comments add various opinions on the Wilders Kortenoeven feuding)

    This was from SOME Deutsh Jews. Specifically, his smear campain was started by
    Kortenoeven who manipulated other Jews people to damage Wilder. Basically,
    Kortenoeven had a falling with Wilder, and Kortenoeven worked hard at creating
    some serious smaering against Wilder, and things took a life of its own.

    Had those Kortenoeven talked to been real Catholic , Kortenoeven might have started to
    confess that he had may be a personal vendetta ( personal jealousy, or Wilder did not want to be
    his puppet etc) and I would not be astonished if Kortenoeven actually got himself manipulated to start his vendetta campain. Many Jewish people just let themselves be manipulated by other Jews or anybody who says "this person is antisemitic" or "thsi person is a danger to Jews" , instead of making it hard for SOME jewish people to damage people "just because".



    Wilder was also an idiot here, as he does not seem to know that many Maroccans
    are actually Jewish. So when he called for ALL Moroccans to be expelled, it did not help his case.

    To fully unravel this vendetta against Wilder, Kortenoeven would have to fully and totally make real confessions, and those around him as well. From then all the people he went directly to manipulate in his smearing campain would also have to fully confess, so as to understand how the lie evolved, what emotions got used and manipulated. Only these people would then take the steps to also get all the
    people down the line to confess. SOME Jewish people really need to protect themselves from being used by professional manipulators.
     
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    #22     Nov 24, 2016
  3. Good1

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    #23     Nov 24, 2016
  4. Mark Driscoll is not a Catholic. I use SOME of his videos when they explain well some particular sins - he does explain well how lies , aka the "sins of the tongue" work.
    What interests me, is for things to be well explained.

    Just now I am reading the "confessions of St Augustin", where he confesses and analyses all his sins in details. The more one finds about how people sin, one discovers what spirituality means.
     
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    #24     Nov 24, 2016
  5. Good1

    Good1

    Yes I know Driscoll is not a Catholic. That's why he would not use the new "sinder" app. I would charge $60 an hour to deconstruct the propaganda of Driscoll and/or Augustine.

    They do not know what sin is and/or what sin is not.

    But they get/got plenty of milage out of their seriously insane notions about reality.
     
    #25     Nov 24, 2016
  6. We have here Driscoll video, as related to "sins of the tongue".
    Can you deconstruct his above video?
     
    #26     Nov 24, 2016
  7. Good1

    Good1

    Yes briefly, the tongue itself is a sin. By talking about the sins of the tongue you are misled about what sin actually is. If you don't know what sin is, you can't be saved. And that is the effect, if not the purpose, of propaganda.

    [Edit] If you don't know what sin is, you can't confess it. if you won't confess it, you can't find forgiveness. Can't find forgiveness, can't be saved.
     
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    #27     Nov 24, 2016
  8. Good1

    Good1

    So, imagine there is a list of 100 sins. It's like, the Catholic Church tells you there are seven or ten sins. They get you to confess seven or ten over and over. It's deceptive, by ommision, to leave out the other 90 or 93 sins. In this way, you will always be a sinner, and will never be saved.

    Actually the list is even longer, as pretty much everything man does is a sin. Worse, everything man is...is a sin. So there is no escape...while you are a man. If you have never heard this before, then their distracting/misleading propaganda has worked well. If you have heard this and dismissed it, also the propaganda has worked well.

    The tongue is a sin, the eyes are a sin. Everything that constructs a man or animal. And I haven't even explained what sin is yet.
     
    #28     Nov 24, 2016
  9. Good1

    Good1

    So here is a more comprehensive list of sins, some or all of which may surprise you:

    CONCEPTION
    BIRTH
    BREATHING
    THINKING
    EATING
    GROWING (CHANGING)
    DYING

    Yes, death too, is a sin.

    Would you be willing to confess any of these sins?

    If not, then you are just playing games that are designed to perpetuate sin.

    The deconstruction necessary to wash away sin is more comprehensive than they would have you believe. However, the Catholic Church did/does offer a hint, when it admits we were "conceived in sin" and/or "born in sin". You see, the "original sin" traces back farther than you'ld like to admit...and goes further back than even Adam and Eve, so-to-speak.

    The concept of male and female was itself "conceived in sin".

    And I haven't even talked about the original sin yet!
     
    #29     Nov 24, 2016
  10. Good1

    Good1

    So, to talk about "sins of the tongue" we are talking about derivatives. You know derivatives, right? It's a term to describe financial instruments that derive from something else. For example, options derive from things like stocks. You can take derivatives to some pretty ridiculous extremes. Hypothication on top of hypothication...until you are in danger of losing touch with reality. And when you've lost touch with reality, you are lost indeed. And that is the purpose of, and the effect of, propaganda.
     
    #30     Nov 24, 2016