dubai glich.. up 250 or down 250 on the open?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by risky63, Nov 26, 2009.

  1. einai

    einai

    Good one!
     
    #21     Nov 27, 2009
  2. So you are saying to buy? Erik Kolodny announced on the chat room that if this market were to get anywhere near UNCH, or any stocks were to go positive, you could witness massive short covering rallies.

    He stated that if everyone thinks X, then be ready to play the opposite of X when the X play doesn't pan out.

    I just copied and pasted this from his blog.

    FRI. NOV. 27- Kids At Play
    On this Kid’s Day at the NYSE in which everyone is encouraged to bring their kids to work there, let’s reflect not on what we’re thankful for (that was yesterday!), but rather why the market is open today. The market is typically open for half days on the day before Independence Day, the day after Thanksgiving, and Christmas Eve. There have been selected days in which the market has been closed full-days as well. Namely, the market closed for several months during World War I, a stretch of days on and off between 1928 and 1930 in which member firms were allowed to catch up on work from the heavy volume of that time, and on days in which there have been funerals of presidents. Most recently, the market was closed for four days during the horrible 2nd week of September in 2001 following the terrorist attacks on American soil. Although there is nothing in the official stock exchange guidelines, there is indeed an unwritten rule that the markets not be closed for more than three days in a row so as not to allow for an order build-up and/or exacerbate a move should there may be a major news event. Since we have to be here, it is important to note that many days after Thanksgiving have been major trading days for the markets. One of the more recent interesting post-Thanksgiving sessions occurred in November 2000 after the election results were announced on Thanksgiving night. Days after Thanksgiving are typically ripe with illiquidity, but also bring in many amateurs playing stock market thus exaggerating moves that much more. Certainly, today will arguably be extraordinarily interesting so although it will be highly illiquid, there is going to be movement all the way up until the 1PM ET close (and potentially thereafter).

    Markets overnight were absolutely ravaged on news that the main investment arm of the Dubai government has declared a moratorium on its debt with the implication it could default. This has shocked the system in that it’d appear that the emerging markets of the Middle East are much weaker than thought. The Vietnamese dong has been devalued and ripples are all over the system. Hong Kong and Tokyo have each fallen over 5% in the last two days. The European bourses are down about 3% in the last couple of days (although marginally higher in the current session). Oil has fallen 5%, gold is down 2%, the dollar plunged to a 14 year low against the yen…name it, it’s moving. For today, look for extraordinarily thin and volatile trade. The newsflow is nearly nonexistent in individualized names, but ostensibly any big cap tech stock is worthy of a trade especially early on. It will be very dangerous due to the thinness of the trade, but get your timing right and pick spots and it could be quite the day.

    Watch list:
    11272009Eriklist.zip

    Reiterating-Please understand that if the ideas do not get to the hoped for set-ups cited below, more often than not, one should not blindly trade the symbol next to said idea. If the whole story is not there -If something is good, assume either a short thru unchanged or an A-B-A2 (preferably to the downside in a downside market and the upside in an upside market) based on direction of the market unless specified.If something is bad, assume either a buy thru unchanged or an A-B-A2 (preferably to the downside in a downside market and the upside in an upside market) based on direction of the market unless specified- Good- The following stocks have good news and/or a strong technical pattern

    JCG- closed near a high after posting good earnings

    DE- closed near a high after posting earnings on Wednesday morning

    WYNN- closed near a high

    X- closed near a high

    CLWT- closed near a high

    KNDI- closed near a high

    TRIT- closed near a high

    BKS- closed near a high

    TSTC- closed near a high

    DRWI- closed near a high

    QLTI- closed near a high

    IFON- closed near a high

    SINA- three investment firms are investing about $180 million into company according to “WSJ”

    Bad-The following stocks have bad news and/or a weak technical patter

    DRAM- closed near a low after posting bad earnings Tuesday afternoon

    Almost everything- most stocks will open sharply lower today on the Dubai news


    Earnings:

    FRI NOV 27 BEFORE

    FRO SFL
     
    #22     Nov 27, 2009
  3. JSSPMK

    JSSPMK

    Or you can just try and find a way to follow market without having to consider who thinks what. Real edge is in establishing how to follow market's direction with prudent money management whilst remaining non biased to up or down. If market wants to go up you go Long, if market wants to go down you go Short. The path to finding this edge can be a long one.
     
    #23     Nov 27, 2009
  4. Well, many / most think that the turn has come. Hence, sell sell sell short short shorty. When that trade doesnt work out, there will be massive short covering / panic. It is like punching someone in the face and seeing them shake it off.
     
    #24     Nov 27, 2009
  5. AyeYo

    AyeYo

    Dip we had and buy we will. Up weeeee go!!

    I'll tell my grand kids about the time I could have had AUD/USD at .9000.
     
    #25     Nov 27, 2009
  6. AyeYo

    AyeYo

    You know what's different about this pullback?








    Nothing.

    It's the same length (~200), same style, same instant bounce, same "this is it! this is the top!," same dollar retreat... it's all the same. It's free money at this point.

    We'll close flat/up (relative to the open) today and be 10,500+ by Tuesday thanks to the shorts.
     
    #26     Nov 27, 2009
  7. Bernanke will give them some US Taxpayer money and tell them, "don't worry... you can have more as needed".

    The market will go, "OK, no worries"...
     
    #27     Nov 27, 2009
  8. Maybe maybe not. I'll go short a dozen or so Russell 2k's into today's close just in case this time is different, you never know. Can always cover with a small loss :cool:
     
    #28     Nov 27, 2009
  9. AyeYo

    AyeYo

    Short covering has begun.

    I'll believe a turn around when I see the dow print a -300's day. These -200ish short trap days are a yawn at this point.
     
    #29     Nov 27, 2009
  10. We'll close green. Dubai? That's on a whole other continent. We don't need them when we've got HFT, Robot Traders, GS and the Fed (in JPM disguise).
     
    #30     Nov 27, 2009