Down to about $90k, where would you park it if your trading skills were trash?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by zghorner, Jan 19, 2024.

  1. Hello ondafringe,

    Yes, ET is great place to learn trading. As I have said many times, everything I learned about trading I learned from ET.
     
    #371     Jan 27, 2024
  2. d08

    d08

    I'm also a crappy trader. I've a bit more left but DD is huge. Realistically we're in an era of ML/AI, I've a feeling a select few are cornering the market and the rest will have nothing. Has happened before in smaller markets.
    If you don't have a PhD level data science background, I'm not sure there's any point in trading.

    I will keep grinding away a bit more but I rarely get filled on the bread & butter trades anymore.
     
    #372     Jan 27, 2024
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  3. ondafringe

    ondafringe

    And you also claim to have learned programming and you code all your own algos.

    Microsoft has a programming language called C# (pronounced C-Sharp).

    There isn't a programmer on earth, not even a beginning programmer, who would mistakenly refer to "C#" as "#C". Yet, as I recall, you have called it "#C" about four times. And that can't be a typo because those two keys aren't even close to each other.

    That's what I meant when I said "Self-Immolation" in response to your "#C" mistake because, to me, you set yourself on fire and pretty much torched your "I'm a programmer" claim.
     
    #373     Jan 27, 2024
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  4. ondafringe

    ondafringe

    Yeah, I think I remember vincentnyc. He was bragging about how great a trader he was and posting a TOS screen shot to prove it. As I recall, @destriero recognized the screen shot as TDA's paper trading account on TOS. At least I think that was the guy.
     
    #374     Jan 27, 2024
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  5. Hello ondafringe,

    Well buddy, who the heck else is going to program them for me? LOL

    I have programmed about 133 algos in NT8 just testing trading ideas.

    I am not sure why I need to lie about programming algos. Nothing to brag about honestly cause out of the 133, I think about 8 of them showed in potential back test. And the one I run last year actually lost money to my surprise of about -$14K. I had to stop it because the drawdown was too big.

    Back testing for an automated trading system Edge, IMO, is ALOT of work. One algo is not enough either IMO. And they take awhile to optimize and back test.

    Not to mention, once you start it and it goes to drawdown for 1, 2 or 3 months, it is PAINFUL cause you do not know if the equity curve will turn around and all you can do is make sure the algo is turned on every single day. So everyday you are starring at drawdown.

    Algo trading has its disadvantages as well, its not ALL good.

    I did not start finding really great algos worthy of my serious liking until about November 2023, that is when I started seeing some good results in back test from my trading ideas.

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    #375     Jan 27, 2024
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  6. ondafringe

    ondafringe

    Okay, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt about being able to code your own NT algos. BTW, I've coded my fair share of algos, as well. And it is a lot of work.
     
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    #376     Jan 27, 2024
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  7. Hello ondafringe,

    Trust me when I say buddy, there is NOTHING to brag about being able to code algos. ALOT of time and effort goes into programming trading ideas and back testing to see your trading idea do not work. Also, do not forget having the capital to trade them as well. I back away from algo development for now. I have found about 8 or so I algos I really believe in to run live, that is enough for me. TOO much work in algo for me.

    soooo HINT HINT HINT HINT.... my reasoning for saying trading is easy, or should I say, manual trading is easy! lol. You see,unless you seen failure and time loss, you will never know what easy is!!
     
    #377     Jan 27, 2024
  8. ph1l

    ph1l

    There is a #C language, and here is a trivial program:
    Code:
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        }
    }
    
    I admit I don't know much about #C, so I had to translate from C#.;)
     
    #378     Jan 27, 2024
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  9. ondafringe

    ondafringe

    lol... you can't help but love this place! :)
     
    #379     Jan 28, 2024
  10. themickey

    themickey

    A heads up!
    It may not be you.
    The stock market has seasons, atm we are in doldrums.
    I spend a great deal of time looking at mkt sentiment, this is where we are at roughly speaking....

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    12 Quarters (4 years so far) and we have gone nowhere.
    Quarterly chart above of Russell 2000 ETF.

    Trading atm suit very short term plays.
     
    #380     Jan 28, 2024
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