Dow 30 All Time High By Dec 31st 2022

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by Rickshaw Man, Nov 23, 2022.

  1. Businessman

    Businessman

    "PhDs making 7 figures"

    You describing a fund like Rentec Medallion, the Dow does not beat the best quant funds and hedge funds, not even close.

    Historically what does the Dow return? Something like 5% above the risk free rate with much larger drawdowns compared to the return it gives.
     
    Last edited: Dec 2, 2022
    #11     Dec 2, 2022
  2. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Also historically Dow Jones has been way too slow removing the Dogs, throttling returns.

    Bet, right now, they'd want a do-over for CRM - about where it was when it was added in 2020, but cut in half from high hit last year.
     
    #12     Dec 2, 2022
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  3. Relax folks, buy the dip.
     
    #13     Dec 2, 2022
  4. Every dip is bought in December.
     
    #14     Dec 2, 2022
  5. It beat the average fund and probably most. Sure, nothing beats Rentec
     
    #15     Dec 2, 2022
  6. nitrene

    nitrene

    CRM doesn't seem to fit in with the other stocks. MSFT doesn't either but at least it is a leader of its industry. They should have removed GE much earlier and left XOM in there. Since Feb 2020 CRM is down 20% and XOM is up 110%.

    I think DJ30 strength is the rise of the industrials & defensive stocks like health care & insurance. I believe minus the tech stocks in the DJ30 it is almost break even.

    MSFT -25%
    AAPL -18%
    INTC -44%
    CRM -47%
    CSCO -22%
    IBM +10%

    So I think the non-Tech DIA is down roughly 2%. Frankly I don't consider IBM to be a tech stock. Its more like Accenture or Price Waterhouse Coopers (aka PwC) -- consulting.
     
    #16     Dec 5, 2022
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  7. Healthcare stocks are great. Tons of sick, obese Americans. Lots of $ from employers coughing up $ to pay for it all. Insurance is a great business, especially health insurance. Jack up those rates annually way higher than inflation.
     
    #17     Dec 5, 2022
  8. maxinger

    maxinger

    India Nifty already hit all-time high.
     
    #18     Dec 5, 2022
  9. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Last time Dow closed lower than today, was one month ago Nov 9th. Just sayin'.
     
    #19     Dec 9, 2022