"The French media has been quick to dismiss the book's claims, despite the fact that Mr Meyssan is president of the Voltaire Network, a respected independent thinktank whose left-leaning research projects have until now been considered models of reasonableness and objectivity. " LOL, so much for left wing french think tanks. And this crackpot was the PRESIDENT of it. They can't just kick him out and pretend that it didn't happen, people will remember this. The funny thing is that this guy is supposed to be a left wing intellectual, but he is going to be a rich capitalist pig very soon, unless he got a crummy deal. Getting rich from telling people what they want to hear. I suppose he is good at that since that is what most non-technical think tanks do anyway.
I must have been quite impaired. However Max, you bring out the very best in me. I probably speak for us all when I say that. Peace and good hunting, rs7
Rs7, you see you are not serious. You took one thing CNN and you develop from it all your outdated ideology... Nobody in the whole world believes in that and in order to support your brothers you are trying to tell us that Israel has the right to kill palestinians. Come on man. I hope you don't believe in that. The facts for every Israeli that dies 3 or 4 palestinians are killed by the terrorist state of Israel the only state that violated all the UN resolutions and the bigger number is guess who????? Israel the country that is stealing the land of palestinian is Israel. So basically give me one real argument why is this injustice accepted instead of talking about disarming the arab states. You are probably joking. The Arab states are already disarmed. and the palestinian arte certainly the most disarmed people on planet earth. One last thing are you kidding when you say How many civilians were INTENTIONALLY murdered by Israeli soldiers or citizens? Are you serious man. all the palestinian killed the houses destroyed the Land occupied were done willingly and this is worse than terrorism. Terrorism is the result of that oppression and colonization and is not done intentionally but because of despair. Whereas the bombarding of houses killings of children are done intentionally. A palestinian terrorist is not doing it in the name of Arafat or the state of Israel whereas all the killings perpetrated by Israelis are made by the State of Israel. Even journalists are shot at intentionally in Israel. The BBC journalist, the french journalist and The numerous arab journalist. I even saw a documentary with an Israeli shot at because the Israeli believed he was an arab journalist.
They don't have my vote ... But if you were a palestinian and your house bombarded and father or sister killed you won't be that ironic. This is a drama on both sides . and I am sorry also for the Isaelis even if I believe that they are the aggressors not the palestinians. They came and took a land that never belonged to them and not the contrary. I don't think that the indians and white european that colonised america became great friends overnight. It took time. Same applies to Palestinian and Israelis.
You can rationalize any behavior, a function of the human mind. People rationalize the teenage suicide bombers. People rationalize the suicide pilots who flew planes into buildings. People rationalized the Kamakazi bombers during WWII who were sympathizers of the Japanese. I always get a kick out of people who say, "well.....yes, that is wrong....but....yada yada yada." The wrong act cannot be rationalized away so easily. Those who have a bias politically, in the markets, or personally will never be able to see a situation from the objective evidence to a reasonable conclusion. They have already come to a conclusion long ago, and will always take some fact to support that conclusion and deny other facts if it doesn't support their case. The lack of objectvity and bias in what you say in this Forum is so obivous that it destroys any credibility you might have. Shame actually. As one who has no vested interest in the situation, I usually see that both sides are in the wrong. Very few cases show truly innocent people striving for freedom in a proper way. Martin Luther King, Ghandi, are a couple who made their cause known in a proper way....and paid for it with their own lives....not the lives of their children, or their soldiers. They deserve respect, others are just politicians on different lines of the sand who are hardly "freedom fighters."
in my book both israel and the palestinians are guilty of massive terrorism, trying to allocate greater or lesser guilt to either side after decades of bloody conflict is an exercise in futility, but also an unnecessary exercise if the forward looking objective is a mutual future based on negotiated co-existence. the prerequisite would obviously be the mutually apparently highly challenging task of gaining the insight that both sides are there for keeps, neither will disappear off the face of this earth, and that all they are achieving with their mutual terror and revenge tactics is a life of constant fear, violence and death. for the people, that is, not for the crazed leaderships apparently subscribing to the unsound siren call of an eye for an eye, thereby acerbating the problem as opposed to being agents for improving the lots of their respective peoples. israel and the palestinians are caught in a decades long midst of a vicious cycle of horrific violence because no one has the courage to seek a solution to the causes, as opposed to the symptoms, of the underlying problem, and accept that constant terror and counter-terror hasn't achieved a single improvement for either side in decades. their only achievement is living proof of the idea that violence begets nothing but violence. at the cost of solving any problems. northern ireland, anyone? getting out of the rut they are in certainly won't be easy, but then what is, but that's no excuse for indefinitely prolonging an insane status quo.
It is good to talk about Gandhi and Luther King but I don't think that they would have accepted the behavior of Israel. I am not trying to rationalise but ask people to be measured when asserting things. One cannot say look at the suicide bombers and forget all the context in which suicide bombing happens. Do you think that if the palestinian did not react they will still be alive??? I doubt it. Do you think that if nobody reacted in the planet humanitarian associations, amnesty .. there will still be a palestine state. I doubt it. Nothing justifies suicide bombing but also nothing justifies the terrorist behavior of Israel. Israel is the single state that violated the most numerous UN resolutions and all of them. If instead of Israel you had Iraq, it's certainly long time ago that it would have been erased from the surface of planet earth. Peace anyway