Dont like Inflation? Blame the Democrats, they support High Energy Prices

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Jun 17, 2022.

  1. UsualName

    UsualName

    Totally dumb take. Anyone is welcome to build a refinery. There’s nothing stopping them. It would be smarter to open some of the shutdown refineries but nobody is making that investment. The outlook on global oil consumption is poor. It’s just a fact. If you want to blame any one person it would be Elon Musk by proving the viability and improved functionality of EVs. The days of the ICE are at an end.
     
    #171     Jul 1, 2022
  2. Is building/increasing refinery facilities/capacity part of the Biden National Energy Plan?
     
    #172     Jul 1, 2022
  3. :rolleyes:

    Usual Tard, there was a question there for you.
     
    #173     Jul 1, 2022
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    U.S. Refinery Utilization and Capacity by month
    https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pnp_unc_dcu_nus_m.htm

    Does not seem to be much of a change over recent years.
     
    #174     Jul 1, 2022
  5. Well, that is the problem. The output has stayed stable because new capacity has not been built. So rather than build more capacity the plan has just been to import additional gas and other oil products from other countries. That way the progressives avoid building or expanding new refineries but the consumer still gets satisfied because incremental demand is met by importing above the base amount being produced by the old refineries.

    So that underlying exposure gets covered up in the short term. In the long run, you wake up some day and find that the incremental imported amount comes primarily from Russia and it is no longer there. WOMP!
     
    #175     Jul 1, 2022
  6. UsualName

    UsualName

    Well I see now you’re poking around looking for something to be right about since your regulations argument turned out to be nonsense.

    I don’t know what Biden’s plan is in refinery capacity. I know we are pumping out near capacity right now though with capacity slightly down overall (low idle). We are pretty tight though and going forward there is not much market incentive to invest in refineries. I think next year is when the most people in the oil industry see the consumption drop off point as coming.
     
    #176     Jul 1, 2022
  7. And there we have it. The Comrade pleads ignorance rather than get cornered into addressing the embarrassment of the facts.

    We know that Biden has a green energy plan because carries notes with him and sticks that plan up everyone's arse regardless of what the question. And anyone in the country who can sit up and take fluids knows that his plan includes bringing the development of any fossil fuel related products to a screeching halt and to absolutley kill any further investment or public policy plan that would lead the private sector to make long term investments in an area that the government but is actively committed to killing.

    But know the Comrade conveniently states that he does not know about Biden's plans in such areas all while he and his ilk assert that everything is being done to get us out the pickle we are in because we are dependent on fossil fuels, even though their plan said we should not be.

    Another fine crabwalk sideways by Comrade Tard.
     
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    #177     Jul 1, 2022
  8. Show me my quote on the regulations argument so that I can respond to what your issue is. Although excessive regulatory burden is definitely an issue in regard to fossil fuel development- oil, gas, coal etc. Just don't know what you are talking about specifically.

    If you can. Or if you just pulled something out of your arse, well then, that's fine. Just another post from you doing that.
     
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    #178     Jul 1, 2022
  9. %%
    Exactly/ but many in Europe love hi taxes + hi gas taxes also:caution::caution:
     
    #179     Jul 1, 2022
  10. ids

    ids

    Refineries are regulated to death. Biden's oil production is just a stop after Trump. The breaks are on. The inertia keeps it temporarily. Why did we stop? We know the answer. UsualName, you can manipulate the numbers in whatever way you like. It is just a manipulation.

    AP Press,
    September 6, 2019

    NEW CASTLE, N.H. (AP) — Joe Biden is looking voters in the eye and promising to “end fossil fuel.”

    The former vice president and Democratic presidential candidate made the comment Friday after a New Hampshire environmental activist challenged him for accepting donations from the co-founder of liquified natural gas firm.

    Biden denied the donor’s association to the fossil fuel industry before calling the young woman “kiddo” and taking her hand. He said, “I want you to look at my eyes. I guarantee you. I guarantee you. We’re going to end fossil fuel.”

    Hell, he is working hard to do it. Libs are applauding!
    https://www.seattletimes.com/business/high-gas-prices-theyre-just-what-we-need/

    It is easy to find a ton of stuff like that. I wonder why UsualName seems not to support the line defined by his party. Are you against the Green Revolution? Do you want to kill humanity by suffocating it in CO2?
     
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    #180     Jul 1, 2022