Don't Defend Yourself In California Or Else

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by pspr, Jun 24, 2013.

  1. pspr


    Liberals gone berserk. So, if an intruder means to do you harm by beating you with a baseball bat, you can only defend yourself with a baseball bat? And, if he's using his fists, you can only use your fists? Then, if the intruder pulls out a gun, you yell, 'wait, let me get my gun.' That is the logic used in Liberturd Land.

    Police are investigating a potential homicide in Ontario, Calif., after a resident shot and killed a drunk intruder who broke into his apartment and attacked his sleeping son.

    In California, citizens have a right to protect themselves and their families, however, there are stipulations in the state.

    Police said an Ontario resident shot and killed an intruder who broke into his apartment in the middle of the night and attacked his sleeping son on Monday, June 24, 2013. (NBC Los Angeles)

    “The homeowner, the citizen, has to be able to articulate or apply the appropriate amount of force that was done against them,” Ontario Police Sgt. David McBride told NBC Los Angeles, later adding that Manzano was unarmed at the time of the shooting.

    Thomas Gilbert Manzano, 24, forced his way into the California residence at around 3 a.m. on Monday, according to police. Manzano had been drinking alcohol for several hours with a friend when they decided to break into an apartment they thought was vacant. They had reportedly been squatting in one of the apartments but got confused as to its location.

    Manzano was first turned away from the apartment, but he allegedly threatened the resident and forced his way into the home through a bedroom window and then went after the resident’s adult son. Police say the suspect threatened the son and a physical altercation ensued.

    Responding to the commotion coming from his son’s room, the father retrieved his firearm and rushed to protect his son. He then shot several rounds at the suspect.

    Manzano was transported to a local hospital with serious injuries. He was later pronounced dead.

    The case is now being investigated as a homicide and the district attorney will determined whether the shooting was justified, according to officials.

    The resident and his son were cooperating with police.

    Manzano’s uncle, “Alfonso,” told NBC Los Angeles that the shooting was not justified.

    “Just because you have a gun and its registered, doesn’t give you the right to kill somebody,” he said.
  2. Lucrum


    The stupidity of the left knows no bounds.
  3. “Just because you have a gun and its registered, doesn’t give you the right to kill somebody”

    I agree 100%.
  4. Lucrum


    And right on que:
  5. pspr


    Some people would rather die at the hand of another than have the other person die at their hand in self defense. So, be it.

    The rest of us, let's keep our guns handy just in case we need them.
  6. So you'd let the drunk idiot beat the shit out of your kid while you grabbed your vagina?
  7. Allow me to rephrase the statement for your benefit. ''If i owned a registered gun , does that give me the right to kill you''?
    i'm willing to bet good money your answer would be ''no''.

    You should note i didn't say anything about you attacking me or such. You might have picked that up if you weren't so always ahead of yourself so often. The attack in that particular incident will be taken into account and addressed.
  8. If I BROKE INTO YOUR HOUSE in the middle of the night and beat the shit out of your retarded son, then YES, you would have the right to shoot me...and if, by some chance, your aim was spot on and I died, then I COMPLETELY DESERVED IT.

    Does that answer your question, Spikey?
  9. The Stanford police department was criticized heavily in the Martin case and their police chief lost his job.One of the downsides of the Martin case is police departments and officers around the country not wanting a Martin type circus and risking their jobs in similar incidents will start leaning towards investigating and charging people in justifiable shootings so that they can pass the problem to the prosecutors to deal with.Innocent or not a decent defense and expert witness team in a murder case will cost over 100,000. Don't blame liberals for that,blame conservative hero Zimmerman who should have stayed his ass in his car and waited for police to arrive.
  10. Ummmm.. I would guess he did that more than once, then the people started a neighborhood watch program because staying in your car and waiting for the police produced the same results. more break ins, etc.
    #10     Jun 25, 2013