Don's Openings Pt. 2

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Don Bright, Mar 5, 2002.

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  1. Gansoro

    Gansoro

    Are all of you that are using this stragegy using Limit On Open orders or Market On Open orders?
     
    #61     Mar 13, 2002
  2. Hitman

    Hitman

    I have been tweaking my formula and thinking that instead of using BETA, I will just use the average daily range of a stock.

    So if a stock has a daily range of 2 points I will use 2.0 in place of whatever the BETA is . . .

    Limit on open.
     
    #62     Mar 13, 2002
  3. Hitman

    Hitman

    One quick question:

    I am not sure what the proper calculation for fair value is, currently if S&P futures is at say 1157 +5.0, I will just assume the fair value is 5/(1157-5) = 0.43%, I think it is close enough but I am curious what everyone else is doing as far as calculations are concerned.

    I am also wondering about the impact of various stocks on S&P 500. I thought it is a cap weighted index, does that mean PFE and C should have a similar impact on the S&P futures?

    For some reason I always thought financials had a much stronger impact on the overall market than say drugs . . .
     
    #63     Mar 13, 2002
  4. chs245

    chs245

    One more thought about beta adjustments:

    I personally use daily volatility of a stock, compare that to the volatility of the S&P500 and adjust the opening range by that factor. This method avoids the low beta problem, especially for stocks with high volatility.

    Example for AIG:

    S&P daily volatility, calculated over the last 90 days is 1.03%
    AIG, volatility = 1.6%

    ratio = 1.6 / 1.03 = 1.55 which compares to a beta of only 0.9

    oliver
     
    #64     Mar 14, 2002
  5. This can only be done with limit orders. If you put in a buy and sell market order on the same stock you would end up trading with yourself. Check the prior threads for the basic methodology. Good Luck!
     
    #65     Mar 14, 2002
  6. mgkrebs

    mgkrebs

    Don- do you do anything different on triple expiration days? or just follow normal procedure?
     
    #66     Mar 14, 2002
  7. lpo

    lpo

    when I use Nyse I get most of the time price improvement on my limit orders.Do you get any price improvement on limit OO.Thank you.
     
    #67     Mar 14, 2002
  8. On Triple Witching days we need to be more aware of the pre-opening indications than normal...they tend to "show their hands" a bit.

    Other than that, we play them normally.
     
    #68     Mar 14, 2002
  9. Since you are getting the opening price, no matter where it happens to fall, you will probably get price improvement.
     
    #69     Mar 14, 2002
  10. mgkrebs

    mgkrebs

    11 order sets, 3 fills, 3 winners

    +36 +14 +8

    total net 58 cents.
     
    #70     Mar 14, 2002
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