Don's Openings, Part 6 2003

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Don Bright, Jan 3, 2003.

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  1. cashonly

    cashonly Bright Trading, LLC

    At 9:23 my hub failed and I didn't act fast enough to get my orders in on time.
     
    #151     Feb 5, 2003

  2. why dont you just buy yourself a bullet and not be so bitter...
     
    #152     Feb 5, 2003
  3. NYNY

    NYNY

    Buying Fifty to Sixty bullets is a bit counterproductive, wouldn't you say.
     
    #153     Feb 5, 2003
  4. not if its making you money, if i even made money on slightly more than half for every bullet i bought, id buy as many bullets as i had great trades...
    from you rtone it sounded liek you could be making some great trades and raking it in if you could ONLY get an uptick..well your not gonna get an up tick, esp. if its going to be a great trade so suck it up and by the bullet you cheap bastard (in jest), lol
     
    #154     Feb 5, 2003
  5. It is pretty rare to actually need bullets for the sell side....we try to widen the envelope whenever we have a big down (or up) day..........

    If you're going to use bullets, use them on your "core stocks" only....that way you get your money's worth....by using them the rest of the day. A valuable tool, as pointed out....

    Don
     
    #155     Feb 5, 2003
  6. I got two shorts yesterday, one winner, one scratch. I often get shorts when the market opens down close to 1%, no problem, esspecially in lower volume stocks (around 1 mil per day).
     
    #156     Feb 5, 2003
  7. NYNY

    NYNY

    Widening the envelope would not do anything. On days like this, if the stock opens on an uptick my "ordinary envelope limits" will still get filled(since the open is greater than them)...the problem is 95% of stock will open on a downtick.

    After thinking about it... On days when the market is going to gap down 1%+ I could set up an alert to tell me when a stock opens above my short envelope(but on a downtick) and immediately go up a bullet and sell within 10 seconds. Of course this is not ideal but it is better than nothing.
     
    #157     Feb 5, 2003
  8. NYNY

    NYNY

    Its no problem if the stock open on upticks. Out of the 65 stocks I watch only VZ opened on an uptick.(made good money on it)

    but if your envelope is <=1% and the fair value is <-1% ALL of your short envelopes will be below the previous close.

    If I set up an alert I could have gone up a bullet for FRE and it would have been a sweet day.

    BUT of course this only has to do with days when the market is gapping down more than 1%... which is rare.
     
    #158     Feb 5, 2003
  9. The "indication" (or alert) is a good idea....but remember also, that the "envelope" is 1% on each side of FV, which is pretty wide (or .5, or .8 or whatever times 2).

    OK, enough "paralysis by analysis" as Nike says...."just do it." LOL....

    Don
     
    #159     Feb 5, 2003
  10. whats funny here, is people taking a strategy like the OO's that is so simple, and make it so complicated...i think its more difficult to make the OO so comlex, vs. just putting your time and energy into just trading the dam thing...
     
    #160     Feb 5, 2003
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