Don's Openings, Part 6 2003

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Don Bright, Jan 3, 2003.

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  1. Anyone with AIG in their group of stocks? Did you delete it today with all the news or put in order anyway? Just curious.:confused:
     
    #141     Feb 4, 2003
  2. Held AOL too long, but BMY offset it....broke even....traded LEH to get into the black....

    Don
     
    #142     Feb 4, 2003
  3. NYNY

    NYNY

    OUCH... not a good day. Worst day of the year. (900)

    When the market gaps down size and immediately sells off the strategy loses its luster.

    This is because your longs don't work and you can't get any shorts off because no plus tick.(ie. FRE )

    didnt think every insurance company would get crushed. I knew there would be weakness but jeez. My fault for trading ALL.

    Was 3 for 5 but the two losses killed me.

    Just have to keep trading the system... and I should be fine.
     
    #143     Feb 4, 2003
  4. Does anyone know the NYSE rules regarding when and under what circumstances a specialist must indicate a stock prior to its opening?

    Is there a place to find a list of disseminated pre-opening indications?

    Appreciate the assistance.
     
    #144     Feb 4, 2003
  5. Generally the Specialist will send out a pre-opening indication (price range) if the stock appears as if it's going to open 30-35 cents (used to be 3/8). Redi Plus shows all opening indications....which really helps to adjust our opening prices.

    Don Check NYSE.com for more info!
     
    #145     Feb 4, 2003
  6. I wouldn't care too much about the opening indication unless there's significant news. My statistics indicate it's more or less the same percentage winners whereever the stock opens (in the upper or lower half if long, opposite if short). It doesn't really matter (I don't trade news stocks).

    Even Don didn't adjust todays openings for neither BMY nor AOL.......
     
    #146     Feb 4, 2003
  7. cashonly

    cashonly Bright Trading, LLC

    11 fills:
    2 winners
    9 losers
    average loss of 7 cents/share

    got distracted and it cost me more. Even without distractions, it wouldn't have been profitable.
     
    #147     Feb 4, 2003
  8. NYNY

    NYNY

    I believe in the long run it might be better to not trade Opens when the futures gap down 1% or more.

    I do not have enough data to say that objectively BUT today plenty of stocks opened up 1%+ from their fair value price BUT it was still below the previous close. Hence, no "money making" short positions. If there was no short sale rule I would made a killing. I wish they would get rid of that fucking rule.(a little bitter :p )

    So if the market gaps down 1%+ and sells right off (LIKE TODAY) the risk reward just isn't there. In fact it might be against you.

    Just my .02.
     
    #148     Feb 4, 2003
  9. NYNY

    NYNY

    OR maybe on days like this you don't go OPG on the shorts...but rather go DAY and cancel the orders a few seconds after the stock opens.... possible getting filled within a print or two and getting a reasonable price.

    This of couse would take A LOT of concentration... or maybe not if you could automate the cancels on your system.

    Just a thought.
     
    #149     Feb 4, 2003
  10. Small but easy....

    BMY + a dime $200 (10 cents).....that's all...

    Don
     
    #150     Feb 5, 2003
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