Don's openings Part 3

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Don Bright, Jun 3, 2002.

  1. OK, new week, let's get these openings working right!
    Just so you all know, we advise our newer traders to do twice the "normal" number of shares on the opening, as they would during the day. We do this because it is a high probability play, and we want them to climb that learning curve.

    We have a lot of "news" out there to affect individual stocks, so be quick to take 10 or 20 cents on the opening, in case of reversals.

    Back to you after the open.

    Don
     
    #311     Aug 5, 2002
  2. wierd opening...

    I canceled all shorts on that sudden opening spike of the futures...

    Anybody else do that?

    Filled on 2 longs +.40 -.48
     
    #312     Aug 5, 2002
  3. C and AOL were quick and easy....+ $500....

    Back to it tomorrow....

    Just a note: I'll be in Anaheim for the show, presentation on Saturday, meeting with some of you at the Marriott (6PM on Saturday, I think...I'll have to double check). We have a pretty big booth this time....come on by to say hi!!

    Don
     
    #313     Aug 5, 2002
  4. No Tony I left my envelope/shorts alone....

    HON took forever and I had to hold on for awhile. Glad futures started to drop.

    Netted .60 total today.

    Robert
     
    #314     Aug 5, 2002
  5. Serious? You sat through being .55 down and held on?
     
    #315     Aug 5, 2002
  6. Yep when I had 12 other winners I really don't care about one stock. I trade a basket of Longs /shorts with the futures.

    Futures started to move lower and when you calculate fair value on HON wasn't anywhere near what it was. HON is a VERY SLOW MOVER.

    HON has a beta slightly over 1. If the futures are gapping down 10% and HON is only down 1% I'm happy to short him.
    I know I'm short with the specialist if I'm short on that opening print. Problem was he was changing his average cost with running it up. So I started to peel out slightly as it went against me.


    Robert
     
    #316     Aug 5, 2002
  7. rtharp, or anyone else for that matter...how do you manage 10 or more fills? are you trading off the P&L mostly while tape reading a couple of others that are moving against you, or do you flip through quickly to get a quick feel, and/or do you put in stops...thanks.
     
    #317     Aug 5, 2002
  8. I trade the Opens VERY differently than Don Bright does.

    I've been in over 35 stocks at one time. Usually though I average 15-25.

    I trade off of P&L

    and reading futures...

    Perfer not to give out more details than that.

    Robert
     
    #318     Aug 5, 2002
  9. I do agree with DON on one part NO STOPS

    It's the specialist job to clean out his book.

    He will clean out limit orders and stops. Stops are guaranteed losers for me while limit orders are guaranteed winners.

    Robert
     
    #319     Aug 5, 2002
  10. fair enough...thanks.
     
    #320     Aug 5, 2002