Donald Trump Jr. is a sick fuck

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Frederick Foresight, Oct 26, 2021.

  1. elderado

    elderado

    Great idea. Alec Baldwin is just a scummy piece of white trash. He deserves everything that's coming to him.

    Should have gone to an NRA training to learn about guns before he wildly aimed and shot and killed someone.

    Dumbass.
     
    #11     Oct 26, 2021
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  2. destriero

    destriero


    When did you make parole?
     
    #12     Oct 26, 2021
  3. ipatent

    ipatent

    He violated the first rule of handling a gun, a person is dead and he should be charged.
     
    #13     Oct 26, 2021
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  4. destriero

    destriero


    The first rule of handling a gun is to use it on @ipatent. Where were you, Bro?
     
    #14     Oct 26, 2021
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  5. smallfil

    smallfil

    Guns by themselves do not fire. You have to have an idiot holding that gun, pointing that gun at target, in this case the cinematographer and director and pulling the trigger. Amazing you extreme liberal idiots, ET trolls included, have not learned the safety instruction of never pointing any guy at any person? Now, if Alec Baldwin did just that, he might have hit a wall or the ground. And nobody would have gotten hurt. Question: Why do they have live rounds in a movie set? You would think they would have only blanks and have safety precautions in place? The victims should get a good attorney and sue Alec Baldwin and his production company for tens of millions. Make him pay out of his millions.
     
    #15     Oct 26, 2021
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  6. Overnight

    Overnight

    You are negligent in your thinking. There is failure all down the chain of custody on this, and the person least responsible for this is Alec, who probably knows diddly/squat on gun safety. He's given a prop gun and told...ACTION.

    Here, kids, let's review the three primary rules of gun safety (with a 4th added in all by myself. Neener), which I call the firearm-safety pyramid.

    I'm a registered MA State Police firearms instructor (And NRA as well, but fuck them, they steal from their membership for personal gains), so don't argue with me, because you will fail.

    1. Always keep your firearm pointed in a safe direction.

    2. Always keep your firearm unloaded until ready to shoot.

    3. Always keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot.


    Bonus! 3A. Always know what is beyond your target.

    The problem started with the armorer, and the pyramid in this setting.

    The pyramid is worded the way it is because it is always assumed that one will be handling live ammunition. There is nothing in the pyramid that covers something like a movie set, where there is usually no live ammunition around. So on a movie set, rule#1,2 and 3 are negated because let's face it, pointing a gun at the camera and pulling the trigger for that effect is, well, violating the rules, but is needed for that particular scene. But it is supposed to be with no live ammo.

    With live ammo, if the top 3 rules are followed, there will be no injuries. You have to break all three rules to have an injury.

    There should have been a single primary rule applied to the armorer, and all those down the line.

    1. Assure no live ammunition is in the firearm when it is handed to the actor.

    In this case, there is no pyramid, because playing cops and robbers on the TV screen doesn't need a pyramid. Just that one rule.

    In firearm safety, when handing a gun to another person, you always assure that the breech is clear and the gun is in a safe mode. The person receiving the gun then checks to assure the gun's condition. (Action open, safety setting, etc.)

    But you cannot expect that to be the case on a movie set where so many assumptions are made, and actors may have never handled a firearm before.
     
    #16     Oct 26, 2021
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  7. ipatent

    ipatent

    He was the producer, hired all these people. His responsibility.
     
    #17     Oct 26, 2021
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  8. destriero

    destriero

    No, Dipshit, there was a asst director who was responsible for safety on set. He's named in the insurance rider. He was the one who handed the firearm to Baldwin and told him it was safe.
     
    #18     Oct 26, 2021
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  9. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Alec Baldwin Fatal Shooting On ‘Rust’ Could See More Search Warrants Soon; Police Say Probe To Last “A While”
    October 26, 2021 5:30pm

    With a much anticipated press conference coming tomorrow from law enforcement set to offer more information on the fatal shooting of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins by Alec Baldwin last week on the New Mexico set of Rust, police are saying today that the investigation into this tragedy is far from over.

    “Both search warrants have been executed,” Santa Fe Sheriff’s Office spokesperson Officer Juan Rios told Deadline today of the two documents issued by a New Mexico judge on October 22 to allow the police to probe the Bonanza Creek Ranch location where the shooting of the DoP and director Joel Souza occurred on October 21. “More search warrants could be coming, but nothing has been filed yet,” he stated.

    “It’s going to be ongoing for a while,” Officer Rios added of the investigation by the Sheriff’s Office into exactly what happened last week.

    Centering now on ballistics, the specifics of the police’s investigation is to learn what went wrong and who is responsible for the killing of Hutchins and the wounding of Souza in a gun with containing “live rounds,” according to an affidavit filed by Det. Joel Cole late last week. On Monday, the Sheriff’s Office filed an inventory list with the Magistrate Court. That list includes three guns, ammunition and spent casings that were discovered at the old-style church location on flat surfaces, secured boxes and “a fanny pack,” confirmed sources with knowledge of the inventory filing.

    The filing with the courts yesterday did not break down what type of ammunition was found.

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    The prospect of more search warrants and a long probe comes as Santa Fe’s top prosecutor told the New York Times today that “everything at this point, including criminal charges, is on the table.” Going on to call reports that crew members on the troubled $7 million budgeted 1880s set Rust had been using guns intended for the film for target practice after hours “unconfirmed,” First Judicial District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies also made a point of referring to the weapon as “an antique-era appropriate gun,” and not a “prop gun” as the Sheriff’s Office and others have over the past week.

    Though her office offered no further clarification Tuesday on the DA’s remarks, Carmack-Altwies will be participating in the early morning press conference with Santa Fe County Sheriff Adan Mendoza.



    As well as seeking to know more about the gun that fired and killed Hutchins, police were searching for any video footage or audio files of the rehearsal on the afternoon on October 21.

    After being told handed the weapon by First Assistant Director David Halls and told it was “a cold gun”, Baldwin is said to have been “practicing a quick draw” when the gun “discharged.” Indicating that all three “prop guns” were prepped by the on-set armorer Hannah Gutierrez, the First AD “did not know live rounds were in the prop gun,” according to the October 22 affidavit filed by Detective Joel Cano to ask for the initial two search warrants.

    Baldwin, Souza, Halls (who has been fired from at least one film previously for weapons going off), Gutierrez, script supervisor Mamie Mitchell and several other members of the Rust production were interviewed by the Sheriff’s Office on October 21. They were all released that day with no travel or other restrictions. There have been follow up interviews, but no arrests or charges as of yet. Mitchell has now retained lawyer Gloria Allred. The high profile attorney said Tuesday “we are conducting our own investigation of what happened because there are many unanswered questions.”

    All of which leads to speculation that more court action is to come in this case. The next question becomes, what form will that action take? Will it be criminal charges as DA Carmack-Altwies loosely said to the NYT or a civil matter?

    “At this point, without further evidence, liability can be individual and joint spanning from the gun manufacturer all the way down to Baldwin and including everyone in between that handled the gun and had any remote responsibility as to safety,” attorney Sara Azari says of future charges and cases in this matter.

    “In terms of naming names, we can expect a lot of that because at the outset of a lawsuit, without investigation and discovery, we often don’t know exactly what went wrong and who did wrong,” the LA-based Criminal Defense attorney added.”

    “The sound strategy is to name everyone who could remotely or potentially be liable including a reference to a myriad of DOE defendants,” Azari continued “For example, the Hutchins wrongful death lawsuit caption would look something like this: Matthew Hutchins and Andros Hutchins v. Rust Production, Hannah Gutierrez Reed, Alec Baldwin, and DOES 1 through 100. As discovery gets underway and more defendants are identified, the complaint may be amended to include their names and identities.”

    We may know how that wind is blowing in the Land of Enchantment on Wednesday morning.
     
    #19     Oct 26, 2021
  10. jys78

    jys78

    Plenty of blame to go around in this horrible situation. Baldwin does bear some; he should have been aware of and following basic protocol. The bulk lies with the armorer and whoever handed him the weapon. Just my .02, I'm sure a lot of lawyers will make bank sorting this out.
     
    #20     Oct 27, 2021