Donald, This I Will Tell You

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tsing Tao, Mar 26, 2017.

  1. I don't have a problem with criticizing Trump or any Republicans. I demand results, not appeals to emotion.

    If Hillary were in office we would be reminded daily of how white males are evil, how we must recognize that there are 70+ Genders that each need a bathroom and that we must build bridges not walls (a.k.a. let's flood America with Islamic Refugees who have hardly been vetted and let's continue to let people come and go as they please at our southern border in an undocumented fashion.)

    My personal success criteria is simple for Trump, I need to see a Wall in 4 Years or he is a failure in my book. I don't care how it is paid for, I just need to see a Wall.

    Please take note, you will never see the Left on this message board criticize and demand results of their own. Have fun finding the posts where they critique Obama or their power team of surefire winners Clinton & Kaine.

    Most of these Republicans fighting Trump are a bunch of do-nothings. Vote the do-nothing Republicans out and salvage those who want to get things done. That is all we can do.

    The good news is that the Democrats will run the same lame, old and tired Identity-Politics Playbook again in 4-Years. The bad news is that Trump (or any Republican) can't go in-front of the nation and say "I'm going to build a wall" and expect to get the same amount of votes.

    I'm going on record right here to predict that if Trump does not deliver on his major promises in his first 4-Years then a 3rd Party Candidate will Win the 2020 Presidential Election. I just hope that 3rd Party Candidate is not a Socialist.

    How is this possible?:

    #1. People are tired of the Social Justice Snow Flake Democrats.

    #2. People will be tired of the Do-Nothing Republicans.
     
    #11     Mar 26, 2017
  2. The media are painting this as a big loss for Trump, and he risked that by pushing for Ryan's stupid bill. The thing the media are missing is that democrats did not defeat Trump on this. It was dropped because republicans could not agree. That makes it a defeat more for Ryan than Trump.

    The republican opposition was founded on the obvious flaw that Ryan's bill retained the essence of obamacare but shifted responsibility for it to republicans. Rates were likely not coming down, there was no free market in insurance and illegals were going to be able to access it. What should have been priorities in the bill were pushed off into phases two and three, with no guarantee they ever would be enacted.

    The bill illustrated the common theme of Ryan's various reforms to entitlements and taxes--republican constituencies are hurt and democrat ones are rewarded. Apparently this is based on Ryan's faith in the discredited Jack Kemp theories of appealing to minorities, etc through economic incentives. How's that working for ya?
     
    #12     Mar 26, 2017
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  3. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    It's the blind allegiance that pisses me off. Every one knows the guy can't run the show by himself but they refuse to question/vet the cabinet choices he made. I was hoping to give the guy the benefit of the doubt but knew it was all over when I saw the creatures he was surrounding himself with. The guy is too damn stubborn and full of himself and stupid enough to think he knows best.

    This whole trumpcare fiasco is a prime example. How are you going to adopt the Republican's position of repeal and replace of 7 years and not have something to show for it? Shit if it was all a bluff then buy your time and present it a year from now.
     
    #13     Mar 26, 2017
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  4. java

    java

    CNN called it Trumps Blunder. They haven't learned one thing. Not only that they have become even more out of touch with anybody that was normal until they voted abnormally for Trump. One hour a week I give them 9 am Sunday morning and they can't even handle that.
     
    #14     Mar 26, 2017
  5. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I blame the repeal failure on the feet of the GOP, not Trump. They've had all this time to have a replacement ready, but they didn't because they have no idea what to do in order to replace it. All they know is to find a camera and talk down Obamacare, but when their bluff is called - oops.

    It's the proverbial dog that chases the car, but once catching it, sits there and has no idea what to do.
     
    #15     Mar 27, 2017
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  6. Yeah, this healthcare stuff is hard. Who knew? :banghead: First, it ain't cost of healthcare they're addressing. Never has been. It's access to insurance for healthcare and you're not going to do that and please everyone. Insurance companies won't like it because they'll have to insure high risk people and be told how much to charge for the high risk person. Many people won't like it because it's going to require a tax to subsidize the overall cost. And if they ever do try and address the actual sky high cost of healthcare that means the heavy hand of government dictating price and profit. Easy to be a critic shouting from the cheap seats. Now they're actually on the field of play and standing around with their collective thumbs up their ass. Congress...these stupid fucks are qualified to manage a hot dog stand.
     
    #16     Mar 27, 2017
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  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Honestly, the real issue in healthcare is the pricing model (or lack of a pricing model). The fact that a minor procedure is $200 in one hospital and $900 in another is lunacy. Drugs that cost $40,000 a month? Really? On what planet is this normal?
     
    #17     Mar 27, 2017
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  8. With the old admin, the rich elite regardless of left or right just keep on getting richer, and the rest is fucckked . Eventually the middle class will join the bottom half, that's where the elite can keep us under their thumb.
     
    #18     Mar 27, 2017
  9. You know she earns about 400k annually. How is she in touch with the masses? Another elite bashing Trump to keep the status quo.
     
    #19     Mar 27, 2017
  10. By that metric, how is Trump in touch with them?
     
    #20     Mar 27, 2017