Donald Sterling is a Democrat

Discussion in 'Politics' started by CaptainObvious, Apr 27, 2014.

  1. Ricter

    Ricter

    And... you're back to form.
     
    #51     Apr 29, 2014
  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Ah, so you're in agreement there can be no crime in what people say.
     
    #52     Apr 29, 2014
  3. Ricter

    Ricter

    No. We have laws governing speech in certain environments, and to certain persons, governing certain types of speech, like libel, and we have a lot of social norms about what is permissible to say out loud. We have (or had) "fighting words", and so on. Speech has long been less free than we like to think it is. Now it's Sterling's turn to learn this. And it doesn't matter if he thought he was speaking privately, we now know what he really thinks, we know his character.
     
    #53     Apr 29, 2014
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    If you read the Time article, you'd take note that we knew his character a long time ago. No one gave a shit to consider it until the media made a circus about a private man's thoughts made in the privacy of his car and recorded without his knowing. I'm not defending the man, just the ability for a private citizen to say whatever the hell they want whenever they are in private. There is no crime, no matter how you want to bastardize the law.
     
    #54     Apr 29, 2014
  5. Thought crime.
     
    #55     Apr 29, 2014
  6. Ricter

    Ricter


    Judge: "I sentence you to two years for this crime."
    Inmate: "Judge, if I said, 'you're an asshole', what would you do?"
    Judge: "I'd find you in contempt and add a year to your sentence."
    Inmate: "Ok, what if I thought, 'you're an asshole'?"
    Judge: "Then nothing, because thinking is not against the law."
    Inmate: "Ok, judge, then I think you're an asshole!"
     
    #56     Apr 29, 2014
  7. You boys are confused about what a crime is. A crime is an unlawful act. Speaking out against what another one said is simply the free speech you want the racist to have. He does have that freedom and so do others to speak out against him. What don't you understand about that?
     
    #57     Apr 29, 2014
  8. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Because a trial has certain rules that must be followed inside the court room, and disruptive behavior is ruled in contempt. It's not the actual words, just the disruptive behavior. That same inmate, once he gets out of jail, can talk about the judge being an asshole all he wants, provided he is not disturbing the peace.
     
    #58     Apr 29, 2014
  9. Ricter

    Ricter

    I understand that, which is why I wrote legal and social norms. Technically you're right, his speech is not a crime. Nevertheless he will be punished, so he broke "something", if not the law.
     
    #59     Apr 29, 2014
  10. Damn Tao, lighten up man it was a joke. Geez you righties are wound up too tight.
     
    #60     Apr 29, 2014