This whole thread is a waste of time, especially YOUR long winded posts! Fraud is fraud, scamster. If it isn't obvious, then it means you're getting scammed.
Where is the fraud? Prove it or move on. And if this thead is a waste time what in the hell are you reading it for? Are you retarded? Do you read threads that are a waste of your precious time. Get a life and move on--fine a more interesting thread to read. And by the way, post your statements and your magnicient trades you scamster or are you just like the other chickens--demand Don Miller to post his but you won't post yours. Bob
Mandelretard will ignore all this, he will rather pick up on a technicality to prove basically nothing other than calling names.
yup, it's pretty obvious it's NOT fraud. and by calling out someone legit without anything approaching proof, it just makes it that much harder when there is someone who IS crooked. EDIT: sorry i went off-track on my post, it just annoys me. the O.P. posted this about don's teaching methods. and that's why i've come here. i'm not looking to learn his methods, unless there's something specifically useful that i can incorporate. but i want to see the same thing as the O.P. so, for those people who are arguing about how he's a fraud - unless you've got proof, AND it's for his teaching methods - shut it. there's some people like me who come back to this thread because i'm trying to get information about the O.P.'s question.
So the Jellie effort is the most intensive service that Don will likely ever produce. And at a fraction of the value. If 7.5K is a fraction of the value, then what fraction is he talking about? He makes it sound like it is a sure thing if you give him 7.5K for his educational service. BobFrank, what fraction do you think he is talking about? Are you one of his jellies?
At least there are 2-3 people in this thread who just want to discuss the effectiveness of Don's teaching, without the silly accusations or the mindless apologies. The best revenge against idiots on the internet is TO BE PROFITABLE. So if a decent chunk of the Jellies are making decent money a few months after they are let to swim alone, I would consider it a success on Don's behalf. Personally, (since I don't think generally trading can be taught) I would be statisfied if at least 30% of the Jellies making it in the long run and Don would be a legend as a teacher. Time (and the Jellies) will tell.... I think we already addressed the concern of making only 0.1 point per trade per day. One can only make decent amount with that if one trades lots of contracts. What I am not sure how easy it is to teach such system. (compared to a system that let's say makes 2-3 trades a day) I read through the unsolicited feedback section of Don't website and although the feedbacks are positive there is only one that actually mentions numbers and %, I quoted that guy earlier in this thread. Also most of the feedback is from people buying the 1.5K videocourse, not from the Jellies. So let's try to keep the bitching and crying from both sides to a minimum (which is zero), and until we don't have more data, just keep it real.... P.S.: If Jellies don't feel comfortable to come forward, they can PM me. I like to think of myself as a fair, trustworthy and objective guy. I can keep your stories anonymous...
I see Mr. Assclown bothered to reply. I was refering to the thread oxy-moron, not this bullshit that your're spouting. $10k for the "intensive course", $1.5k for the "videos", "$xxx" for the assorted booklets and pamphelts, while the system only generates a few tics worth of profit per day (if that, LOL). Now of course there's the asinine argument that "the sytem can be profitable if you trade a lot of contracts" ... well duh, so can any system where the students are actually learning how to trade well ... Carry on, Losers, Papertrader and Wannabees