Don Bright's "Core Positions"...

Discussion in 'Trading' started by fatrat, Dec 6, 2005.

  1. That is one of the worst trading strategies I have seen in quite sometime (just my $.02).
     
    #11     Dec 6, 2005
  2. Choad

    Choad

    Heh. This is Mr Market's "strategy"....

    He has NEVER had a losing trade (or for ET'ers - loosing :D)!!!

    Mr Market is HUUUUGE!!!!!! :p
     
    #12     Dec 6, 2005
  3. GTC

    GTC

    What are the specific ways to know if institutional buyers are buying/selling?
     
    #13     Dec 6, 2005
  4. Surdo

    Surdo

    Autex and Bloomberg
     
    #14     Dec 6, 2005
  5. ditto. also, over 250 trading days in a year, you avoid massive total in slippage (it can add up significantly) and retain the superior entry point. this one concept changed my trading this year.

     
    #15     Dec 7, 2005
  6. Well, I have to say that it feels a little weird to be spoken about in the third person...and to see the wide range of responses to a simple part of an overall trading strategy...and while taking Mr. Schey's comment with a grain of salt (especially since he hasn't been part of our Firm for a long time, but will likely return as have so many in the last few months)....There is still hope for you, Mike...LOL (keep smiling, you know we've always liked you)...

    The "core position" can be a couple of hundred shares of your "children" - and children are the 2 or 3 stocks that you trade on a daily basis...sort of like becoming a "Surrogate Specialist" - you may be looking for the mentioned 8% return, while being able to make "fair and orderly" markets on both sides of the equation.

    Often times you will be long, sometimes short however (when you see action in the stocks "peers")...(and, BTW, we allow 6 times your equity overnight with no haircut charge when traders are partially hedged, as most good traders are....very few successful traders are "naked" long or short for long, 2% per YEAR for 6-12 times your equity, 4% per YEAR for 12-18 times equtiy, etc)....these positions are simply to augment, not replace, your overall trading style.

    This methodology has morphed into pairs trading, and allows newer traders the opportunity to develop skills in that arena as well.

    Things change....perhaps this is of interest: "Adapt or Die' article from the magzine.

    http://www.stocktrading.com/Adapting.html

    I must say that I am glad to see some "real" trading discussions going on...so much "nonsense" here at times....

    Back to it...

    Don

    ww :cool:
     
    #16     Dec 7, 2005
  7. By watching the tape closely, you'll see the block prints, and the NYOB will often show "levels" of pricing where the accumuation or distribution of these shares takes place.

    Don
     
    #17     Dec 7, 2005
  8. fatrat

    fatrat

    Can you post a sample of some core position management, or maybe discuss the rules behind how you like to manage your core position?

    I attempted to do this in SSP today, when I shorted underneath $47. I kept offloading shares 5-10 cents away, partially. Then when it came back up, I'd short again. Repeat, over and over. It was just a "go with the flow" kind of thing. But, I still think I can do it better than I did. Some examples would be great.
     
    #18     Dec 7, 2005
  9. fatrat

    fatrat

    Is there any way to learn how many shares an order from the floor has to it? I suppose I can go back through the tape and study this, but it seems like it's random how much a floor guy will dump at any given level.

    Also, I'm curious if you can explain how traders use VWAP[I think that's what it is] to get large numbers of shares.
     
    #19     Dec 7, 2005
  10. You're looking more for simple volume at pricing levels. Brokers may have 100,000 shares to sell, but only reflect 10,000 at a given price level. Watch for 10,000 (or any other "block print"), which "should" eliminate the quoted offer, but doesn't...if they keep printing large size, then obviously, there is much more stock to go at or near that price level.

    Don
     
    #20     Dec 8, 2005