Perhaps playing video games does not require the same part of the brain to light up as doing math. This in itself doesnt mean that the front of ones head is going to be 'soft'. The scientist losses a LOT of credibility when he uses phrases like "increasingly violent society" especially coming from Japan. Japan has never seen such a long and non violent period of its time in recorded history. The developed parts of the world are the safest places to live in the history of mankind. Its like the religious nuts that come knocking on my door telling me how things seem to be getting worse and worse. I ask them "compared to what?" a simple question in response that they can never answer when presented with facts of history. simple things like polo gone, smallpox gone, running clean water, electric, air conditioning, airbags, medical care and advancements, etc etc......
Jack, that is quite interesting. Is there any literature on the subject that is worthwhile reading? Thanks.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote from jack hershey: It is one of the most amazing things in the world that in most all cultures there is no formal learning on how the body works. It takes quite a while to learn to listen to the internal organs of the body. You probably cannot list the body's senses, for example. Do you know how the ones you can think of work and connect? No you do not. Getting, informed, as you state, about the brain is still an untouched subject for you. What would trading be like if a person knew how he worked? physically or mentally???? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack, that is quite interesting. Is there any literature on the subject that is worthwhile reading? Thanks. Let me give it a shot. The mind and the senses go back a long ways. Aristotle gave five senses and left out the balance sensory system. Here is a batch that I refer to because it is how things work. I have a psychiatrist and we work in two ways. I kept appointments and we worked on areas of interest (He and I were part of a team where we worked together). Read his book "Coyote Healing" and read another team member's book "Health and Healing" and the team's immunologist's book, "The Self-healing human. I like this batch because they are personal: "First, Break All the Rules", "Now Discover Your Strengths", and "Knowing How to Know" Consciousness is a topic in all of this, so read: "A Universe of Consciousness" "i of the Vortex" "The Quest for Consciousness" So far everything is mostly localizationism. Sort of the long time CW of the mind. the DANA Foundation is a good source of what's cooking, so I recommend the following: "The DANA Guide to Brain Health", "Neuroethics: Mapping the field" 2002 conference proceedings, "Advances in Neuroimaging", Progress Report 2006 conference Proceedings. They have a library too and there it makes available: "The emotional Brain", and "Synaptic Self, How our Brains Become Who We Are" At this point, the papers of many persuations become important and it is good to not shut the door on anything. My experiences in Switzerland (JI) and the U of Mich Psychiatry and Ed Depts. (via ASAGA and the UCSC) was very cool. Today you can learn a lot by reading the survey: "The Brain that Changes Itself", and Look into one spawn: PositScience's "Brain Fitness Program" Their program participants interact at www.CognitiveClub add the usual .com For myself, uniquely, Lewis ("Coyote Healing") made up 8 tapes, an hour each, using shaman heritage where my systems and system parts are a village that goes back to the village's origins. I was there an relaxed (like a shaman's hypmotism) to experience the tap's creation. This more personal that the sweat lodge cleansing rituals. You can spend years on this. localizationism was not interested in giving any creadance to neuroplasticity just as the AMA types were not interested in integrative medicine just as the CW of the financial industry will not yield to other algorithms. I was enabled to explain our algorithm by coaching from others. that happened over time. As it turned out, to trade I built my mind. At the time, how the mind worked was not known or accepted. Naturally, since I was made aware of how I worked (in several stages), and since I had worked with Lewis and Sanna (Susanna Ehdin), the immunologist, I finally during the last stage of learning how I worked, I was able to connect the critical timing and sequencing and rep rates for affecting transference to deal with the key of obtaining sensitivity and not having tolerance thrust onto the scene. Expertise, from a mind point of view, is sensitivity oriented and not tolerance oriented. Just to see the difference (and not relate specifically to expertise), examine two people here who exhibit tolerance as needed to do what they do. Tolerance is defined as needing more and more, metally to get the same past result. Look at trader28 and his obsession. Look at a search of CL Cheese and read the dozen or so posts in chronological order. Here you see how trading CL is done by a person who has "tolerance" mentally to get the job done. He explains tolerance, for him, by two images he names. My reply to his critique of me is an expression of how sensitivity overrides the tolerance if the correct fork in the road is taken. As a shortcut timewise, Doidge (The Brain that Changes Itself) is a good narrator, LeDoux (Synaptic Self How Our Brains Become Who We Are) has the pics, and Ehdin makes the health points in terms of immunology. It has been an amazing experience. To have plucked this and that, here and there all my life was sort of a CPM trip. I knew I was equipped from testing..being flat...let me play anywhere....how I grasped to differentiate all the time is amazing in retrospect... My ME instructors were gracious and let me use EE symbols.... theoretical physics was just organization theory and by then I knew I could memorize total mainframe logic and play the console to debug ASAP... I did mainframes and trading as parallel learning.... repping logic was automatic... just like building onions. I got to work with Schumacher.....Bucky...(the pic in Time or Newsweek?? was my old office. (UCSC).lol)...EOP.... coming up with the EIS for environment and the PHA water interference tables and the PL 92 500....lol ..continuous fermentation for alcohol ....coal alcohol porcupines...(you get five times faster coal burn and reformed gasoline....lol) The copier and the PC made it really happen for making money.... It is so funny that people do not see that the daily multiple is what it is ...and all turns are telegraphed in advance (WMCN, etc..)....cruising the whole day long.... Have fun. Soon you will know where drills came from and why.... and why learning is a work process to build the mind. AND why people filter themselves out of the Algorithm.
ever see or notice that burning smell, when you're on a trading desk? ok, aside from the off color jokes and thoughts, that's brain cells being burned up whilest all those traders and black boxes are churning out ways of capturing the next profit spread before the next guy does.... yeah, that's why traders enduldge on vacations and expensive things (see the cover of the latest issue of TRADERS?)
Jack, thank you for the informative response and references. Some things in your post definitely go over my head, but I think I grasped the quintessence.
Jack, are the tolerance and sensitivity mutually exclusive? Why couldn't it be the case, that one enables and reinforces the other? I hope my question is not completely off base.
Here are two simple examples Sex. Look over the porn internet industry pathways. The CW is the more is needed to get the same result. Love and intimacy. Look at successful marriage over 50 years. as times change, through sensitivity ,a continuing enhancement occurs through triggers that are highly differrentiated. Let me turn to trading. Ley's say we have two traders and they have developed enough knowledge and skills that each of them has a business plan and a trading plan. They have risen to the level thay neither of them are trading in reaction and especially in reaction to a single observed sensory signal. What has occurred for each of them also is that they have a routine that they do and each different routine uses the information available to them from the markets. One routine precipitates tolerance and the other precipitates sensitivity. Both of the traders are successful by their methodological standards and they have different algorithms of the markets. In the method used by the tolerance person, he must continually get reinforcement and more reinforcement to maintain his performance. You can read about this thoroughly and conprehensively. The major issue is fear and anxiety as recorded on videos of the trader at work that the person brings to his therapist. They have a constant maintainance program running that has been memorialized by documentation. The sensitive oriented person operates in a sufficiency mode always and he only deals in the present but he does have some verniers that come into the present as the future moves into the present. One presept he uses is that all alternatives are closed off except one when the future comes into the present. You can read a recent statement by Thunderdog that is the antithesis of this orientation and which supports his orientation to a tolerance mental functionality. A tolerance modus is depicted by the OODA routine. A sensitivity modus is depicted by the MADA routine. there are always, in ET, several sites you can go to to see tolerance or sensitivity. Here is an example which has information content. Print the daily charts of zdawg164. check out time in market, time between trades, and market moves during sideline times. You will see a "fear" measure pop right up. It is the multiple of sideline time during price runs divided by average trade time prior to that fear period. Granted the person cannot see the market as yet and granted he does not have a routine. Over the days you can see the Lizard syndrome setting in however. As an offset to this look at his compatriot who started later (to trade real money for the first time) and that this person has a two variable system whereas zdawg only "uses" one variable. Notice the second variable is differentiated. This person, once inital fears were overcome, did have a ratio of in market time to sideline time that was superior. As you see these two people operating one is directing himself towards sensitivity and the other is headed to tolerance impairments. They both uniformly use the wrong standard of performance BUT this standard is reinforcing to one and devistating to the other. The GOAL of successful trading is a differentiated mind. A differentiated mind comes from "neurons that fire together work together" coupled with "if you don't use it, you lose it". Other subfeatures are LTP and LTD. zdawg is using LTP to build bad stuff, his compatriot is building good stuff. Both are reinforcing the stuff they are getting. If an erasor could work ; it would be using LTD and it is a harder job than using LTP. zdawg has to erase his bad stuff to get back to zero; then he has to build goos stuff to get started. Building bad stuff is tolerance oriented (you need more and more to get the same result). Sensitivity, is the ability to use less and less to get the same job done. Elsewhere you can see how using the same rules for forests, trees, branches and down to bugs is reinforcing good stuff and thus the mind, by repeated drilling for days and days and days, then, to go on to an unconscious automatic use of the P, V relationship. Countless neurons have been roped together and short cut wiring is there too. further, fatty insulation has been built to strengthen and cause more of the limited space to be occupied. Saturation is what is called for and it does arrive. You will read about how it is for language impaired children. One issue can deal with 80% of the problems. We did a similar thing relative to sensory impaired traders. I often comment that a person has NOT seen the markets, ever. If you can't see it, you can't differentiate your mind. If there is no differentiation, you are building a crosswired part of the mind. Simply look at price action traders who all are cross wired. zdawg is making a diary of price action miswiring. Look at those who give him accolades who are preceding him. There is one person there who doesn't day trade whose advice he is accepting. I am using treminology of the scientists so words like tolerance, sensitivity, differentiation normalizationism have to be looked up in the science of the mind web places or in books such as I have noted for beginning purposes. As odd trader would say this is words words words and therefore is not an answer. words don't provide answers for him anymore....lol. If you pull up the sweeps chart, you will find nine colors (for easy on building differentiation) and you will also see three levels (fractals) (and more differentiation) where the same sufficiency rules (more differentiation) are applied to take you to the nearest tick to do a turn each time (very great differentiation) a profit making turn appears. This is a light weight summary example of the potential of drilling to build the mind at full application of LTP for 6 1/2 hours a day. AND it leads to sensitivity and WAY AWAY from tolerance.
Jack, thanks for your precious time. I apologize, but I need some time to digest your informative post. I definitely have a lot of questions which I would like to ask (tomorrow), if you don't mind. Many thanks.
I think the time has come for one of those scare ads: "This is your brain. And this is your brain on indexes..."
I've been thinking about the difference between OODA and MADA since I'd encountered these acronyms in one of your posts some time ago. The problem is, I couldn't make noteworthy sense of them besides some semantic and (as far as I can? think) negligible differences. Where is THE difference between observe + orient on the one side and monitor +analyse on the other? The subfeatures LTP and LTD don't tell me anything.( The LTP, which is the only one I managed to look up, delivers "Latest Take Precedence" as explanation??? I know I must be completely on the wrong track with this one.) What importance do you attribute to them? As far as I could understand you still allow for the possibility of tolerance being reinforcing for sensitivity in some constellations? I hope, I don't bore you with my questions.