However having too wide a stop or scaling into losing trades can doom people who regularly trade 1 ES contract per 20K even, so this is hard even for non-over-leveraged traders. That's why day trading teachers should be ethically and legally required to use a third-party vendor to verify their P&Ls prior to going public.
Sure, there are plenty of ways to lose, but trading at max "day trading margin" [so-called] pretty much guarantees it.
I am usually in full agreement with Debit-- he has taught me much over the years-- However, I must disagree with him on this point. $400 is 80 points in the YM with a single contract. $500.00 or $400 is plenty of margin for day trading--
How should I manage my risk, legendary traders, with my 20 contracts on $400 margin w/an $8,000 account balance. 20 contracts w/a stop too tight will attract traders on the DOM even on the ES but a stop too wide could wipe out most of my account.
I don't know where to place stops with 20 contracts and a 8K balance. You're suggesting you do, so offer some hypothetical advice.
I always place stops below current reaction low on whatever time frame is being traded (when buying). With 8k I wouldn't be trading 20 lots, 1 lot.