does it EVER make sense to buy and hold a 3X bull ETF ?

Discussion in 'ETFs' started by trc4949, Jun 3, 2016.

  1. From Stock Charts.com... graphs of SLV,USLV and TNA,IWM. One where there was not a profound uptrend, the other has that. Suggests to me that rather than "long term B&H", better to attempt to "time" the silver move.
     
    #41     Feb 20, 2017
  2. %%
    They split some of that stuff so much............................................ Maybe one reason some hate TA so much LOL
     
    #42     Feb 21, 2017
  3. Think of what you might lose,NOT what you might make !!!
     
    #43     Apr 9, 2017
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  4. JKG77

    JKG77

    LETFs are path-dependent realized vol products. They should be avoided if you don't know how to model them.
     
    #44     Apr 9, 2017
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    Good pointsTrenderNurse;
    think of what you could lose ;+ lose in opportunity cost$, if all put money in bank CDs only
     
    #45     Apr 10, 2017
  6. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Most people trade futures with leverage of 3 times and higher, so yes it makes sense.
     
    #46     Apr 10, 2017
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    CS called in the note, so to speak ,on UWTI[ 3X oil uptrend ]; still had plenty of good trends, good volume, but they never raised margins.LOL I called up Janus + asked the if they were going to split it again, when it got real Low; Janus said that would be up to Credit Suisse.

    I just found out the stock market closed during WW I according to IBD chart book -when it opened back up it gapped up a lot; a real killer for the leveraged shorts
     
    #47     Apr 10, 2017
  8. Sig

    Sig

    Which do not behave in the same way as a 3x ETF, so not an apples to apples comparison. The times you get into trouble with leveraged ETFs are the times you don't understand the difference.
     
    #48     Apr 10, 2017
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  9. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Won't get into any more trouble, and likely less, with an ETF versus futures.
     
    #49     Apr 10, 2017
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  10. Sig

    Sig

    I thought it would be uncontroversial to suggest one not trade something they don't understand. Apparently not.
     
    #50     Apr 10, 2017
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