Does IB negotiate commissions?

Discussion in 'Interactive Brokers' started by Humble Investor, Apr 24, 2020.

  1. Because he is doing high turnover market making kind of stuff. I am in the same boat. 2019 was painful with comms eating up a lot of profit.
     
    #31     Apr 26, 2020
  2. tonyf

    tonyf

    Then both of you are working for your broker and not yourselves. It's OK as long as you are in the clear about that.
     
    #32     Apr 26, 2020
  3. What is the alternative? Are you saying that there are attractive trading strategies out there that will produce consistent income while paying only 3% commissions?
     
    #33     Apr 26, 2020
  4. tonyf

    tonyf

    Yes of course. Across markets and capital structures. I remember reading a study a while ago by BCG that minimum holding period was 9 months for retail investors to have holdings working for them instead of the broker and exchanges.
     
    #34     Apr 26, 2020
  5. I don't know what information I can get from that anecdote. I am a trader not a retail investor that holds 9 months. I want to be green at the end of the month, every month. I want to make 30+% per year every year regardless of market up or down. Only way I know to do this is high frequency, and that means commissions are a decent fraction.

    Are you saying that it is possible to do all that, while only paying 3% of gross? That sounds amazing. Please tell us a bit about your trading, if you don't mind.
     
    #35     Apr 26, 2020
  6. tonyf

    tonyf

    No, I ain't. Arb pays out 2 to 4 per cent per annum. The trick is to borrow cheaply and gear up 25x. Not accessible to us I am affraid.
    Your objective of 30 per cent delta neutral is for the birds really.... 8 to 10 per cent long term is what most people aim for.

    As for my trading: I am a CFA holders and specialise in fixed income securities. I spent my days reading financial statements and not trading. I probably trade once a month.
     
    #36     Apr 26, 2020
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  7. What arb are you referring to? Is this the repo market thing that's been in the news lately?

    Been exceeding that objective every year since I started in 2014, except 2019 which sucked. Already exceeded it in 2020 thanks to the market becoming insanely inefficient in march. 8 to 10 percent will be OK once I'm retired :D

    Fixed income is something I know absolutely nothing about. Literally zero. Are you making 8 to 10 percent in fixed income?
     
    #37     Apr 26, 2020
  8. Do you trade fixed income with IB? I also trade corporate credit and commissions are killing me. Even SCHW charges less per bond than IB.
     
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    #38     Apr 26, 2020
  9. tonyf

    tonyf

    After much thinking, I am now fed up with IB's commissions as well. They are simply refusing to listen. Opening an account with Schwab.
     
    #39     Jul 8, 2020
  10. What did they say? How much are you paying in commissions per months? Thanks!
     
    #40     Jul 8, 2020