The P&R forum is bad enough by itself. I hope this thread is trying to be sarcastic or funny. And yes, I do find myself in the P&R forum occasionally because I get stupid once in awhile. Quite often actually. I am trying to wean myself off "P&R" but it isn't easy. This section of ET reminds me of the Trump/Clinton election. Whining, bitching, name calling, insults, ect.