Does cooking protect meat?

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by -ooO-(GoldTrade, Dec 27, 2003.

  1. Could you provide me with a link to a difinitive answer as to actual proof that consumption by humans of any misshapen prions form other species causes the natural prions in humans to become misshapen?
     
    #11     Dec 30, 2003
  2. it's a PRION. PREE'ON not PEE'ON :D

    is anyone still eating meat?? :eek:
     
    #12     Dec 30, 2003
  3. Source of the epidemic
    Epidemiological studies conducted in the UK suggest that the source of BSE was cattle feed prepared from bovine tissues, such as brain and spinal cord, that was contaminated by the BSE agent.
    Speculation as to the cause of the appearance of the agent causing the disease has ranged from spontaneous occurrence in cattle, the carcasses of which then entered the cattle food chain, to entry into the cattle food chain from the carcasses of sheep with a similar disease, scrapie.
    Cause
    BSE in the brain affects the brain and spinal cord of cattle. Lesions are characterized by sponge-like changes visible with an ordinary microscope.
    The agent is highly stable, resisting freezing, drying and heating at normal cooking temperatures, even those used for pasteurization and sterilization.
    The nature of the BSE agent is still a matter of debate. According to the prion theory, the agent is composed largely, if not entirely, of a self-replicating protein, referred to as a prion. Another theory argues that the agent is virus-like and possesses nucleic acids which carry genetic information. Strong evidence collected over the past decade supports the prion theory, but the ability of the BSE agent to form multiple strains is more easily explained by a virus-like agent.
    Cases of BSE
    Between November 1986 and November 2002, 181 376 cases of BSE were confirmed in the UK.
    Since 1989, when the first BSE case was reported outside the UK, relatively small numbers of BSE cases (in total 3286) have also been reported in native cattle in Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Spain and Switzerland. However, all but 206 cases have been reported in six countries — France, Germany, Ireland, Portugal, Spain and Switzerland.
    Since the introduction of monitoring programmes to detect BSE in dead and slaughtered cattle, 12 countries have found their first native case (Austria, Czech Republic, Finland, Germany, Greece, Israel, Italy, Japan, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain). Small numbers of cases have also been reported in Canada, the Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas) and Oman, but solely in animals imported from the UK. The International Office for Epizootic Diseases (OIE) reports these cases on their web site: www.oie.int
     
    #13     Dec 30, 2003
  4. Entirely speculation, theory, debate. Still nothing even close to a difinitive answer. They aren't even sure whether it is prions or viruses. There is also no proof bovines get the condition from eating other bovine prions. How do the wild deer spread the condition by eating one another when they are not carnivores?
     
    #14     Dec 30, 2003
  5. yeah well the pieces are coming together and the picture ain't pretty but you go ahead keep eating those quarter pounders. would it make you feel any better to get holes in your brain from a virus rather than a prion? lol :p
     
    #15     Dec 30, 2003
  6. Brandonf

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    Something like 120 people in the entire world have been identified as having BSE I believe. Your chances of getting run over as your cross the street are better then your chances of getting mad cow.

    Brandon
     
    #16     Dec 30, 2003
  7. Still nothing even close to proof to my questions. Just links to PETA socialist propagand sites.

    However for the veggie lovers. How long ago was it that there was a hepatitis "a" outbreak that sickened 550 from eating imported onions. There is a proven link not just wild speculation.
     
    #18     Dec 30, 2003
  8. i don't want either; i'll look both ways and eat veggies :eek:
     
    #19     Dec 30, 2003
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    I agree with you totally but I believe what the 120 people worldwide have is vCJD not BSE. It is a human similar condition but what I am asking is proof that one causes the other and as far as I can tell there is no known connection.
     
    #20     Dec 30, 2003