1. the fine tunings of the constants of the universe has its genesis in the science, cosmology and physics. It has been observed and debated by physicists. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-tuned_Universe 2. whereas the ID argument is mostly based on biology and concepts like irreducible complexity, dna and information technology. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design 3. Lately some IDers have picked up the fine tuning argument. So for me... ID is biology, biologists, information tech guys and believers Fine Tuning is cosmologists and physicists
good question. That the constants are fine tuned is apparent to our current (non troll) understanding of science. the real question is what is the explanation, and I think most scientists would say Tuner or hope to find a Multiverse or hope to find TOE... I doubt it gets near 97% for any explanation.
That's right. You are always linking to posts which contradict the silly things you say. Utter rubbish. Higgs remains a part of the Hierarchy problem or "fine tuning" to you, as was the case before being discovered. "Its funny cause the Middle Ages thinking theist troll just lies his ass off, over and over."
.....but "fine tunings" actually being fine tunings, is never defined or established or confirmed in cosmology and physics as science. "Fine tuning" is only a phrase, a term, an interpretation in cosmology and physics for a set of observations that appear to be especially particular to each other, but as yet remain unexplained. In religion, "Fine tuning" is an excuse to throw a deity at a specific group of yet undetermined extraordinary natural circumstances. Which are thoroughly discredited debunked and rejected by the science they try to invade. Except you can only insinuate both, as neither are science.
No need, there is gravity. Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing. That's what's "apparent to our current (non troll) understanding of science."
Says your "god" who doesn't know the composition of over 95% of the universe, and who also once claimed that time would reverse and people would die before they were born.
You'll need turn to Jem for a "god" whether it be Hawking or whatever. Other than that, it's a matter for science.
You have no idea what I do or don't take on faith, stupid. The only ones around here insisting what certain scientists say confirms their assumptions are those like yourself, who don't actually have any real argument at all. As proven each time you post.