Does anyone actually believe in God or are they just afraid...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Joe, Apr 22, 2014.

  1. Ricter

    Ricter

     
    #181     Apr 29, 2014
  2. stu

    stu

    Lol. Steven Weinberg pre discovery pre cosmological constant. :D:D omg!
    That's too absurd even for you. Making up nonsense like that just because your absurd religious beliefs drive you to it, is what's extreme.
     
    #182     Apr 29, 2014
  3. stu

    stu

    ok, well these are his words, clear enough...

    "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
    Albert Einstein
     
    #183     Apr 29, 2014
  4. jem

    jem

    sure... why not... that looks similar and not inconsistent with the other quote from just before he died.



     
    #184     Apr 29, 2014
  5. jem

    jem

    could you try to be a more dishonest fraud? really?
    you were just caught misrepresenting science again.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_constant

    Observations announced in 1998 of distance–redshift relation for Type Ia supernovae[6][7] indicated that the expansion of the universe is accelerating. When combined with measurements of the cosmic microwave background radiation these implied a value of \Omega_{\Lambda} \simeq 0.7,[8] a result which has been supported and refined by more recent measurements. There are other possible causes of an accelerating universe, such as quintessence, but the cosmological constant is in most respects the simplest solution. Thus, the current standard model of cosmology, the Lambda-CDM model, includes the cosmological constant, which is measured to be on the order of 10−52 m−2, in metric units. Multiplied by other constants that appear in the equations, it is often expressed as 10−35 s−2, 10−47 GeV4, 10−29 g/cm3.[9] In terms of Planck units, and as a natural dimensionless value, the cosmological constant, λ, is on the order of 10−122.[10]

    As was only recently seen, by works of 't Hooft, Susskind[11] and others, a positive cosmological constant has surprising consequences, such as a finite maximum entropy of the observable universe (see the holographic principle).


     
    #185     Apr 29, 2014
  6. jem

    jem

    That is not far off from what I speculate.

    I am intrigued by the quantum mind and the universe is a hologram ideas. I would not be surprised if we are thought into existence. To me that might also explain the difference between general relativity and quantum mechanics. Its not really official til the Observer says it is or delegates the authority to us ... then quantum mechanics back dates the observations into consistency. (which is I suspect (in part) is what Hawking was getting at with his top down cosmology theory).

    I would not call your guy God without knowing more, but if you are correct he could be our Creator.

     
    #186     Apr 29, 2014
  7. +1
     
    #187     Apr 29, 2014
  8. jem

    jem

    +1 for the Captain as well. (as for some of the atheist on this board ) since many who are now called atheist are really agnostic, I have no problem with the agnostic position
     
    #188     Apr 29, 2014
  9. stu

    stu

    -2 ... at least
    Not clear where your open mind or humility is to say every atheist lacks both those things. Generalizing that way can hardly be called open minded.
    Ironically , if anyone wants to say its all settled it's the theist. Godidit is their answer to everything. Talk about closed mindedness.
     
    #189     Apr 29, 2014
  10. stu

    stu

    Move away from that mirror when you're trying to type, it's confusing you.



    Lambda (cosmological constant) is still being implied not confirmed in the current standard model of cosmology just as it was in Einstein's and Weinberg's time .
    One of your own interminable pastes above says implied - not confirmed, fixed or "settled science". Do you ever read them?
     
    #190     Apr 29, 2014