Doctors refuse to treat the unvaccinated -- Welcome to the new ethical minefield

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Sep 5, 2021.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Maybe you need to learn how to read the data.... here's a hint.

    NCDHHS Reports First COVID-19 Pediatric Death in North Carolina
    Jun 5, 2020
    https://www.ncdhhs.gov/news/press-r...first-covid-19-pediatric-death-north-carolina

    Durham child among the more than 10,000 COVID-19 deaths in NC
    February 9, 2021
    https://abc11.com/aurea-soto-morales-child-covid-death-coronavirus-nc-dies-from-covid-19/10324208/

    etc. etc. and many more.
     
    #81     Sep 13, 2021
  2. jem

    jem

    you would rather cast hate on the young and healthy and force them into an unknown future of boosters and perhaps immune system destruction...
    than actually focus on the issue... which is the high risk... vaccinated and the non vaxxed.

    you are a selfish, disgusting... hateful... dumb evil fuck... and so are all the people that encourage your bullshit and lies. There was a new study today... that said we need to be focusing on the high risk... out of the UK... duh...
    we have known that data for over a year but assholes like you are whipping up fear and hatred... so we don't focus on what is necessary...
    And don't forget your stale studies .. frequently included the low risk and the those with natural immunity....

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    oh you found 1 death or 2? The data set is from July 14th 2020 and onl..
    Maybe it was not in the data set.. .maybe it was changed to something else...

    but this is from your first link.... as I have bene saying.

    As of June 4, more than 950 COVID-19-associated deaths have been reported in North Carolina, with nearly 800 of those being in people over 65 years of age. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), less than one percent of COVID-19-associated deaths reported nationally have been in children 17 and younger.


     
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    #82     Sep 13, 2021
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Once again -- you embarrassed yourself proving you can't read a chart. Yes, there have been child deaths from Covid-19 in North Carolina. Of course they are small when compared to older people.

    Yet the Covid trends on children in the U.S. with Delta over the past few weeks is frightening because over a mere recent eight week period child Covid-19 deaths have increased by over 33%. In Florida child deaths went from 12 in the state to 16 in their most recent weekly report.

    However it is absurd that you don't consider Covid-19 to be a child health issue unless the child is dead. The pediatric ICUs across many states in the U.S. are full and many children are enduring Long Covid. Pretending that children don't count unless they are dead is the height of Covid-denier hypocrisy.

    It is also absurd that you go to a link from June 4, 2020 to drive your bat-shiat insane narrative.
     
    #83     Sep 13, 2021
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  4. jem

    jem

    lets not forget how you began this exchange with your lies...

    you said 95% of the cases and hospitalizations...

    a. you could never prove that because you have no idea how many infections there really are..
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    b. from you link less that half the states are even tracking that fully...

    c. you never produced the data from every state... not even close..

    and the CDC recent data was the best data produced...

    cause you lied your ass off.




     
    #84     Sep 13, 2021
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Go read the data of the many states tracking the data fully. Go read the data of the many countries tracking the data fully.

    Go educate yourself and stop posting ignorant bullshiat. It's become old.

    Have you no shame in continuously posting misinformation that undermines public health leading to Covid deaths?
     
    #85     Sep 13, 2021
  6. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Anyone that ignores Pediatric Hospitalization (increasing) and ignores Pediatric ICU admissions (increasing) but only focuses on Pediatric Deaths (very rare)...

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    "The weekly COVID-19–associated hospitalization rate per 100,000 children and adolescents during the week ending August 14, 2021 (1.4) was nearly five times the rate during the week ending June 26, 2021 (0.3)," the authors said. "Among children aged 0–4 years, the weekly hospitalization rate during the week ending August 14, 2021, was nearly 10 times that during the week ending June 26, 2021."
    Covid-Hospitalizations-Children-Increasing.png
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    That's a dumbass dimwit because its a person that ignores the stress and financial strain on the Parents and the guilt by Parents that made a choice to be Not Vaccinated or made a careless decision about whom they associated with (someone not vaccinated or someone that had only one dose of a two-shot regiment) while their child was with them.

    Nurses in many of the southern state hospitals see this every single day...they see the stress and guilt on the Parents in Pediatric hospitals. Worst, in some cases, the Parents can not even enter the Pediatric ward while their child is on a ventilator or has a breathing (oxygen) apparatus unless the Parents have been fully vaccinated.

    It's a fuck up situation and it was avoidable


    Our high-risk groups are those people LESS than 50 years of age and children in this 2021 with the Delta Variant. Yet, to no fault of their own, children can not be vaccinated. They must then rely on those living with them to be fully vaccinated to protect them.

    Those Parents with children and the Parents then choose to be not vaccinated...these are Parents that are not protecting their children.

    wrbtrader
     
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    #86     Sep 13, 2021
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  7. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    What are you going to do?

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    #87     Sep 13, 2021
  8. jem

    jem

    hey dumbfucks... produce the data on high risk vs low risk...

    you keep bring scary stories...

    Then I check and I see zero deaths from gwb's own state...

    Why the fuck don't you produce the data.

    If healthy kids are dying...
    I will change my stance....

    I am here to protect my kids and others from having the immune systems fucked with.

    If you can prove healthy young kids are dying I will change.
    if you are saying the are getting fucked up by dealta long term I will change.

    Produced some useful non anecdotal data.

    Last time I checked with a doc who works with kids in ICUs... the doctor said said it was kids with pre existing conditions....that was when delta was hitting hard in our area.)
     
    #88     Sep 13, 2021
  9. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

     
    #89     Sep 13, 2021
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    hospitals should just refuse treating with IVM to keep the anti-vaxxers out.

    Oh wait...
     
    #90     Sep 13, 2021
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