The lack of sympathy for anti-vax idiots is going to lead to a lack of any desire by medical professionals to treat them... ICU is full of the unvaccinated – my patience with them is wearing thin Most of the resources we are devoting to Covid in hospital are being spent on people who have not had their jab https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...cinated-my-patience-with-them-is-wearing-thin
Local politician launches attacks against the sole small rural town doctor over her refusal to treat unvaccinated patients. Turns out she was treating everyone but thanks to the social media backlash, she's out. Now the town has no doctor -- and the residents who supported this nonsense can go f@ck themselves. No other doctor will even consider moving to this shiathole. Ontario doctor leaving practice after unfounded claims she denied care to unvaccinated patients Storm of abuse on social media got 'very nasty,' mayor says https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/doctor-anti-vax-abuse-harrassment-latchford-quits-1.6266983 The only full-time family physician in a small northern Ontario town says she feels personally attacked after a spate of COVID-19 misinformation and anti-vaccination sentiment set off by a town councillor. Dr. Gretchen Roedde, 69, says, as a result, she plans to close her practice in Latchford on March 31. Latchford Mayor George Lefebvre says Coun. Scott Green made a mistake when he wrote a Facebook post claiming Roedde wasn't seeing unvaccinated patients. Lefebvre says the post was unwarranted and unleashed criticism and anger against the doctor on social media. "It became very nasty. People should not use social media to express their concerns," said Lefebvre. Green says he put letters of apology in 300 mailboxes in Latchford — a town of some 300 people, 130 kilometres northeast of Sudbury — but won't say what he wrote in them. He says he wants to move on and avoid stirring up another storm of controversy. As for Roedde, she says she doesn't want to dwell on the councillor's remarks but does want to wrap up her stint in Latchford earlier than planned. She says she has provided care, and made accommodations for her unvaccinated patients. "We had said if people are not vaccinated, we would look at alternatives," said Roedde. "We would do phone [calls], when we could. We've had people come at the end of the day, like I had a new mom who wasn't vaccinated. We had her at the very end of the day, we sort of wiped down everything. This is for the protection of the unvaccinated, as well as for the protection of other patients that come in." When you're tired, you know, doing house calls every day over a weekend … worrying about your own safety. You just sort of think, it's enough.- Dr. Gretchen Roedde She says she's also seen unvaccinated patients outside in the clinic's parking lot and has been making house calls to unvaccinated seniors and those who have tested positive. "I have had a very sick man with COVID. He was a staunch anti-vaxxer. He got quite sick. I've been looking after him at home for 12 days of his illness, and then his oxygen level suddenly dropped. So I was seeing him yesterday. We arranged for him to transfer by ambulance to the hospital where he's now in intensive care." Roedde says the final straw was a call from the body that regulates doctors to notify her of complaints from two patients who said she was denying care to the unvaccinated. She says the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario (CPSO) discussed her protocols with her and declined to open an investigation. A spokesperson for the CPSO says it can't comment. Roedde says it's all become overwhelming and she's exhausted, especially since she has gone above and beyond to provide care to her patients. "It's personally painful. And when you're tired, you know, doing house calls every day over a weekend, over the next weekend, you know, worrying about your own safety. You just sort of think, it's enough," she said. As a result, Roedde says she'll help in the search for a new doctor for her 800 patients in the Cobalt, Latchford, Coleman Township area but has set a deadline of March 31. Patients say she will be missed. Terrance Inglis says Roedde is a dedicated doctor, saying it's rare for a doctor to do house calls in this era and the community will feel the loss. Amjindar Cheema said he only had to walk two blocks for an appointment and wonders what will happen. "Losing her, I know they're going to replace her but still it can take some time. But still she was the best." The Ontario Medical Association (OMA) and the Canadian Medical Association (CMA) have recently said abuse and harassment of doctors during the pandemic has been growing and is unacceptable.
The unvaccinated are getting priority in ICUs... "Hi. Is it okay if we pull the plug on your ICU cancer patient? We have an unvaccinated Covid patient who needs the bed" My bile rises as I’m asked to move my dying cancer patient out of ICU to make room for an unvaccinated man with Covid https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-make-room-for-an-unvaccinated-man-with-covid
Let's see what Howard Stern has to say... Howard Stern Believes Hospitals Should Turn Away COVID Anti-Vaxxers: ‘You’re Going to Go Home and Die’ https://www.complex.com/pop-culture...d-turn-away-covid-19-anti-vaxxers-go-home-die
Who the fuck cares? Sinking to new lows apparently(which is quite a feat to you). Some random guy says something stupid and you just post it as if this proves anything? You or even that idiot don't get to say shit about who turns away this or that patient. You can scream and shout all you want, but that decision is ultimately up to physicians. That is the good thing about a market. Nobody is obligated to provide a service, but there is always someone willing to provide it. And I'm sure that there will be physicians like me who will not "go full Hitler-Stalin" and defend genocidal ideas as you do.
Yet Republicans are fine with legislating the rejection of medical care for people they don't like. Until they noticed that their law could be used to reject treatment for the unvaccinated as well. Doctors refusing to treat LGBTQ people? These Republicans want to make it happen. Republicans delayed voting on a medical refusal bill over fears that it could be used against unvaccinated patients. https://www.metroweekly.com/2022/01...to-refuse-medical-care-over-moral-objections/ January 19, 2022 A Republican-backed bill in South Carolina that would allow doctors to refuse non-lifesaving medical care to LGBTQ people has stalled after they realized it would allow doctors to refuse to treat those unvaccinated against COVID-19. The bill, sponsored by Sen. Josh Kimbrell (R-Spartanburg), was purportedly introduced to protect doctors and other medical professionals from being fired, demoted, or sued if they refuse to provide non-emergency services or perform specific procedures to which they morally object, such as gender confirmation surgeries. The bill also seeks to reverse an unrelated ordinance, approved last June in the city of Columbia, that prohibits the practice of subjecting minors to so-called “conversion therapy,” reports the Columbia-based newspaper The State. (More at above url)
Was this supposed to be an answer to what I said? I'm not republican, not even American. Your binary brain cannot conceive that a physician can treat a patient regardless of their personal choices and not be a republican? I have no problem treating LGBT people as well. Just as I don't have a problem with PHYSICIANS who might refuse to treat people who didn't get vaccinated or LGBT people, provided that doesn't put the person's life in immediate danger. As I said, there will always be physicians willing to treat people, even if other physicians choose not to. The thing is that this is the PHYSICIAN'S choice. Not yours. You can scream.and cry all you want. But there's nothing you or any idiot celebrity can do about it.
Yeah... let's take a look at what many doctors are saying regarding treating the unvaccinated - as they unnecessarily clog hospitals. Of course, this gets into medical ethics -- hence the title of this thread. Unvaccinated Should Be Lower Priority to Receive COVID Treatment, Doctor Says https://www.newsweek.com/covid-vin-...priority-icu-treatment-msnbc-joy-reid-1662496 Medical analyst Dr. Vin Gupta has said "negative incentives" should be considered to battle the Omicron surge—such as putting people who have chosen not to be vaccinated at the back of the line for treatment if they get seriously ill. In a segment on Wednesday, MSNBC anchor Joy Reid asked the pulmonologist for his view on models that predict 140 million new cases in the U.S. from January 1 to March 1 next year. Gupta said there needed to be a debate on what to do with the unvaccinated, who are taking "advanced ICU therapies from somebody who is vaccinated in the hospital." He asked: "How do we rank—order that priority? We do it for organs, kidneys, livers, lungs. We say, 'Did you smoke? Did you drink recently?' If you did, you're lower on the list even if you need it. We need to start thinking of that model." He added: "This is where it gets controversial, but we need to start talking about this—the bioethics of it, broadly—because this is not the last respiratory pandemic we're going to face." Gupta made a similar suggestion on the program in August, telling Reid that "only the fully vaccinated" should be prioritized for ICU care and there needed to be a "rethink" about care rationing. The Omicron variant has become the dominant COVID strain in the U.S. in just a few weeks, but the debate over treating unvaccinated people has been rumbling for months. In July, David Andersen, a doctor from New London, wrote in a letter to Connecticut newspaper The Day that Congress should make it illegal for state and federal government, as well as private insurance companies, to pay to treat someone with COVID-19 "who chose not to be vaccinated for a non-health related reason." Jonathan Meer, a professor of public policy at Texas A&M University, said vaccinated people had to pay for the unvaccinated through higher health insurance premiums. "Why should the vaccinated bear those financial costs," he wrote in an August op-ed for MarketWatch. Linda Marraccini, a family doctor in South Miami, Florida, sent a letter to her patients earlier this year urging them to get the jab by September 15 or find another physician. "The health of the public takes priority over the rights of any given individual in this situation," Marraccini wrote, according to NBC Miami.