Doctors refuse to treat the unvaccinated -- Welcome to the new ethical minefield

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Sep 5, 2021.

  1. jem

    jem

    so go ahead tell us that kids in north carolina are high risk... when none have died in the last year..

    you lying douchebag... what I presented to you is the definition of high risk... for severe covid.
    low risk people do not become high risk for severe covid... ever. at least with the variants we have experienced.

    96 percent of people in ICUs have co morbidities and many more are their because their old.


    But you don't care about facts... you just lie your ass off.


     
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    #101     Sep 14, 2021
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Once again --- after you were shown to be completely incorrect earlier -- you are claiming no children in North Carolina have died of Covid in the past year. I pointed out your were incompetent at reading basic charts -- which showed there are days where a child aged under 18 had died of Covid. Plus I provided press releases from both 2020 and 2021 of children dying of Covid in North Carolina.

    It's difficult to believe that you are so thick to think that simply repeating your lie over and over about no children dying of Covid in North Carolina -- somehow will make it magically true. I expect the parents of the dead children wish it was true.

    Bottom Line with Delta Covid: HIGH RISK = UNVACCINATED

    Over 95% of people in hospitals and ICUs with COVID are UNVACCINATED.
     
    #102     Sep 14, 2021
  3. jem

    jem

    you are fucking idiot... Go to the bottom of the page... scroll across and tell us how many deaths you find... maybe one... maybe two in your whole state... in the last year... but you tell kids are high risk because they are unvaccinated..

    you are an asshole vax nazi.

    https://coviddata.conehealth.com/nc-overall.html


    the high risk are the high risk... as the CDC explains...
    You are an anti science asshole.


     
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    #103     Sep 14, 2021
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Still can't read a chart, eh. Suddenly changing your tune that no children had died of COVID in North Carolina.

    Here are some additional charts to give you some perspective. The HIGH RISK = UNVACCINATED

    Let's look at some hospital charts from September....

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    There are hundreds of other available charts from September that show similar information from across the face of the earth.
     
    #104     Sep 14, 2021
  5. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    I must say there are days when GWB rubbing Jem's mangy weasel fur the wrong way is enjoyable.
     
    #105     Sep 14, 2021
  6. jem

    jem

    still lying about the definition of high risk?
    Try the CDC. rather than listen to the gwb lying ...

    https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/p0625-update-expands-covid-19.html

    want to know who is dying from Covid in North Carolina...
    try his state's real data...

    https://coviddata.conehealth.com/nc-overall.html

    want to know the truth about hospitalizations...
    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/...italization-numbers-can-be-misleading/620062/

    Researchers have tried to get at similar questions before. For two separate studies published in May, doctors in California read through several hundred charts of pediatric patients, one by one, to figure out why, exactly, each COVID-positive child had been admitted to the hospital. Did they need treatment for COVID, or was there some other reason for admission, like cancer treatment or a psychiatric episode, and the COVID diagnosis was merely incidental? According to the researchers, 40 to 45 percent of the hospitalizations that they examined were for patients in the latter group.
     
    #106     Sep 14, 2021
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    HIGH RISK = UNVACCINATED

    That's what all the current case, hospitalization and death data proves. CONCLUSIVELY
     
    #107     Sep 14, 2021
  8. jem

    jem

    #108     Sep 14, 2021
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #109     Sep 14, 2021
  10. jem

    jem

    what a fake science touting lying moron you are.. the definition has not changed...

    Updated Aug. 20, 2021



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    [paste:font size="5"]One way to protect the health of children is to ensure that all adults in a household are fully vaccinated against COVID-19.



    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/people-with-medical-conditions.html

     
    #110     Sep 14, 2021