do you use other time series than price and volume within your ATS?

Discussion in 'Automated Trading' started by man, Apr 1, 2008.

do you?

  1. yes. i use exogenous timeseries in my ATS.

    11 vote(s)
    36.7%
  2. no. price and volume only.

    19 vote(s)
    63.3%
  1. man

    man

    Oh, then you really "arb"? now that is something different. but
    anyways, don't worry, i am not even close to playing millisecond-
    games. i am amazed that a single person can do that profitably.

    do well ...


    PS:
    acts 9:7,
    "The men who traveled with him stood speechless, hearing the voice but seeing no one."

    :)
     
    #21     Apr 4, 2008
  2. Arb.-able. IMed you.
     
    #22     Apr 4, 2008
  3. chvid

    chvid

    TSGannGalt - You formulate in detail what I am in the middle of changing my overall system development process into. Great post(s). Thank you.

    BTW: I look at price/volume only trading select ETFs and non dividend yielding / highly liquid common stocks - my target is to hold positions for 2-10 days.
     
    #23     Apr 4, 2008
  4. man

    man

    John 10:10
    “I have come that they might have life and have it to the full”.
     
    #24     Apr 4, 2008
  5. There's no point of PM replies for some stuff so...

    As mentioned a few posts back, I use discretion as part my process from my point of my skills. I am able to develop a model and trade them without adding any discretion, profitably.

    Simply, you can take any crap system and make it look profitable by using top-notch technology and algos on paper. Once you implement it, the added value (top tech and other perks) will not keep up with real life trading.

    First thing required is to have the "mind" to DUM (in acrary terms) "or" expose/extract an edge out of the market. You're simply carrying over that "mind" on a constant/monitoring basis as the discretion factor. I just hope some Tradestation user doesn't try copying me, because they won't be able to pull it off.
     
    #25     Apr 6, 2008
  6. There is a better interface between matlab and tws

    www.exchangeapi.com

    The product is matlab2ib.




     
    #26     Apr 6, 2008
  7. man

    man

    definitely. i have never seen a system that matches the
    backtest. you gave me some brain food. yet i think i am
    not good in predicting when our systems do well. always
    think i can, but if i am taking away positiveMemoryBias
    i guess i am pretty much at random ...

    nevertheless, the whole issue seems to me like regime
    change modeling and i do believe humans can beat
    machines in that. ... well, certain humans ...
     
    #27     Apr 7, 2008
  8. man

    man

    10:12

    very interesting. i would have thought the price people
    would exceed by far, then it was just the exogenous
    and now we are at about even. i am tempted to start
    a thread on which time series the exogenous guys do
    use, but that is probably asking too much ... gets into
    fishing ...

    thnx everyone for participating.
     
    #28     Apr 7, 2008
  9. flip

    flip

    hi mbatrader,

    do you use matlab2ib? we've considered this interface too, but then decided to give twslink a try.
    what are your experiences in terms of speed, reliability etc...? what do you think are the problems / disadvantages of twslink?

    thx!
     
    #29     Apr 7, 2008