Do you price the options yourself or do you use black-scholes?

Discussion in 'Options' started by thenmmm, Oct 31, 2010.

  1. That's not a model, but rather just a specific case of applying Black-Scholes for the ATM case.
     
    #11     Nov 1, 2010
  2. Q
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black–Scholes

    Black–Scholes in practice

    The Black–Scholes model disagrees with reality in a number of ways, some significant. It is widely employed as a useful approximation, but proper application requires understanding its limitations – blindly following the model exposes the user to unexpected risk.

    Among the most significant limitations are:

    * the underestimation of extreme moves, yielding tail risk, which can be hedged with out-of-the-money options;
    * the assumption of instant, cost-less trading, yielding liquidity risk, which is difficult to hedge;
    * the assumption of a stationary process, yielding volatility risk, which can be hedged with volatility hedging;
    * the assumption of continuous time and continuous trading, yielding gap risk, which can be hedged with Gamma hedging.

    In short, while in the Black–Scholes model one can perfectly hedge options by simply Delta hedging, in practice there are many other sources of risk.

    UQ
     
    #12     Nov 1, 2010
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    #13     Nov 1, 2010
  4. Yeah, SuperD's can price a whole variety of options, but some of their pricing is suspect. At any rate, I am not sure I understand what SuperD's have to do with the issue?
     
    #14     Nov 1, 2010
  5. thenmmm

    thenmmm

    heh....10x :cool:

    I promise to write again here with potential..."results", later these week...

    10x for the other replies as well...
     
    #15     Nov 1, 2010
  6. Visaria

    Visaria

    If a coin tossed 100 x tails in a row, it's clearly biased!!! :D
     
    #16     Nov 1, 2010
  7. "
    http://www.nesug.org/proceedings/nesug98/post/p020.pdf

    REVIEW AND RESULTS:

    How good is this new technique – Option
    Pricing with a Time Series? Let’s apply it to the
    AMR data series. First we follow the 4 steps
    just discussed to produce a forecast (recall that
    these steps are very applicable to many
    compound growth problems).

    1) Plot the data – this gives an indication
    about linearity, variance, and appropriate
    “weightings”.

    2) Screen for outliers – all points in this series
    were deemed to have predictive value (no
    outliers).

    3) Transform the series using a log, and then a
    first difference – creating a new (stationary)
    series that measures daily % change in
    stock price.

    4) Check for autocorrelation – as expected,
    this series has “moving average” behavior,
    and no “autoregressive” behavior. We can
    now use an exponential smoothing model.
    The actual parameters chosen for this
    problem (refer to section III for details)
    were NSTART=100, WEIGHT=0.005, and
    TREND=constant.

    The model produces a forecast for October 15,
    1998 (the date the 6 month option expires) of
    $167.77, with a standard deviation of $12.48.
    Applying steps two and three from the binomial
    model described in section II, we can calculate
    an option value of $18.15! This is a bit higher
    than the “market” price of $16.00. Why? For
    this forecast, I used the most recent three years
    of data. Since the stock has increased quite a bit
    in the past three years, this is reflected in the
    forecast.
    "
     
    #17     Nov 1, 2010
  8. Isn't this just using historical volatility for option pricing and, as such, is neither particularly original nor particularly interesting?
     
    #18     Nov 1, 2010
  9. charts

    charts

    Don't over-think it! Use B-S (or other) to model what will happen to your position if certain things happen (e.g. time passes, stock price changes, interest rate changes, dividends, volatility changes due to whatever factors, etc.). Making profits comes not from better modeling the price option from given inputs, but from correctly estimating those inputs, and the potential risk and profit the result. ... And no, the market isn't random (e.g. coin toss, etc.). And no, options trading isn't a zero-sum game because of the trading costs. ... :)
     
    #19     Nov 1, 2010
  10. charts

    charts

    Nor particularly correct either ... :)
     
    #20     Nov 1, 2010