Do you need to understand where the edge comes from?

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by qlai, Oct 13, 2018.

  1. tommcginnis

    tommcginnis

    You belabor the obvious: Universal to science (and one might say, to *reason*), models are, each and every one, simplifications of reality. You seek to criticize it for being/doing exactly what was intended. That's laughable.

    Do you realize that it's 2018? And we still can't define "gravity"?? We can say what it does! We can say how it works! But we *can't* say what it IS. Light! Is it a particle? Is it a wave? DON'T KNOW. But that doesn't stop us from laser surgery. Doesn't keep us from confirming Einstein predictions 100 years after the fact, does it?

    To paint a model "wrong" because it simplifies reality ..... WOW. :banghead:
    :wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf:

    A beauteous thing. :D
     
    #101     Oct 25, 2018
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  2. danielc1

    danielc1

    Thank you, I like to BS in forums..
     
    #102     Oct 25, 2018
  3. Sprout

    Sprout

    #103     Oct 26, 2018
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  4. Peter8519

    Peter8519

    Models or strategies will break, sometimes. :p
    Simply, do a scan of any market, errr... let's 50 days simple moving average(I know... I know, it's a lagging indicator.) and see how many stocks that are still above it. You then compare it to the past week, month or year.:cool:
     
    #104     Oct 26, 2018
  5. schweiz

    schweiz

    You call a 50 days MA a "model" or a "strategy" ???? ROFLMAO

    You still have a long way to go before being a trader... :D
     
    #105     Oct 27, 2018
  6. userque

    userque

    What did you keep seeing?
     
    #106     Oct 29, 2018
  7. MarkBrown

    MarkBrown

    mostly that trading counter to the trend was more profitable than trading with the trend in most all popular indexes. the assumption that every top is to be sold and every bottom to be bought far out performed buying highs and selling lows. yet the trend moves are what the human eye always focuses on because they look awesome on a chart. choppy markets look perilous and so most traders avoid them. i learned to embrace reversion to the mean as a primary method.

    also i learned that oscillators make better trend tools and averages make better chop tools just the opposite of how they are traditionally used.
     
    #107     Oct 29, 2018
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  8. panzerman

    panzerman

    It's been a truism in financial markets forever that most traders are net losers. It's because the methods they use are too simple and cannot effectively deal with the randomness of price movements over time. You trash random walk, and its' associated skew and kurtosis, but never explain let alone prove the edge you supposedly have and how you beat the randomness. It's an anonymous public forum so I would not give two cents in a bet that you really have a proven edge.

    At least I'll be honest and admit I don't have an edge. I'm a breakeven trader and have been for almost five years now. It's because I can't find a TA method that is mathematically proven to be positive expectancy, and thus programmable into an algorithm. I probably never will, but I like the academic challenge of it in order to keep my mind sharp. I also don't use price action or patterns because they are generally not mathematically provable.
     
    #108     Oct 29, 2018
  9. speedo

    speedo

    If you really believe that horse shit then why in God's name are you still trading ??
     
    #109     Oct 29, 2018
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  10. Was wondering where I was getting my day trading profits from...
     
    #110     Oct 30, 2018