I am starting this thread expecting to be able to discuss how our genetic makeup affects our ability to create wealth and keep it. I will, for example purposes, contribute a little of my personal experience. As most of you know, by looking at people around you, you will notice that when it comes to making money some people seem to be able to make it with or without much effort, while others who irrespective of their efforts and work hard through all their lives end up without it. I believe that genes and not the amount of work and effort play an important role on this. I believe that when it comes down to money there are 2 genes. The "making money' gene and the 'keeping or holding money' gene. Some people are born with both genes. Most people are born without the two. Having one or the other means little in the long run, unfortunately. I have found I fall into the "making money' gene pool. Keeping money has always eluded me and I give credit to this, to the 'next year I will be a millionaire so what the heck let's spend money like it's 1999' syndrome. I am obviously changing my ways around money in a big way. Hoping I can learn to 'grasp' and 'hold to' all/most of the money that I make from my mind's work. The most and fastest money I made in my life was when I associated with someone who had the gene I was/am missing. Obviously depending on someone else for my subsistence for the rest of my life is something I didn't want to do, so when I started trading I knew it was possible that at some point, regardless of how much time and effort I would put into this venture, that this missing link would show it's face, and it has, like clock work. Gene one: has the vision for extraordinary profits but misses what gene two has tons of. Gene two: Has the ability to 'bring home the bacon' without feelings of guilt and uses 'save mode all the time' but lacks the vision and entrepreneurial spirit, gene one has tons of. So the question to the audience is. Can genes be altered perpetually ? Will I or anyone else with the same issue be able to keep all the money made, or will our subconscious always find a way to give it back? Has anybody in the audience, who is presently a successful trader also gone through this issue ? I was born to trade, so I view this as a speed bump in my road to successful and consistent profitable trading. The reason I bring this matter to the board is to get other's ideas on the issue, since I am sure traders don't lose money because of the system they use necessarily, but because of their mind set and genetic makeup in regards to money. Ideas welcomed.