Do you compare your trading results to just buying and holding the S&P500? Why or Why Not?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Tall Mike, May 26, 2023.

  1. themickey

    themickey

    OP is lazy and wants others to put in the effort to supply answers.
    If you're going to contemplate trading/investing, your own legwork will produce better results than continually leaning on others for a feed.
     
    #11     May 26, 2023
  2. deaddog

    deaddog

    Key word here is should. keep in mind trading has a 95% failure rate.
     
    #12     May 27, 2023
  3. Businessman

    Businessman

    What kind of strategy is only good for $20k/year?

    Normally it is the trader who is only good for $20K, because they are too fearful of trading size.
     
    #13     May 27, 2023
  4. MrMuppet

    MrMuppet

    ever tried to arb nano cap dual listings?
     
    #14     May 27, 2023
  5. Businessman

    Businessman

    Why trade that lightweight stuff when you can trade over $1million notional in NQ with just $10,000 down.

    Answer is obviously that there is a bigger edge.

    But if you were trading that, i would hope you could find multiple listings.
     
    Last edited: May 27, 2023
    #15     May 27, 2023
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  6. Businessman

    Businessman

    If traders actually aimed for 'just' 20% on whatever paltry amount they have then the failure rate would be lower. But your typical trader is aiming for 200% a year (or more likely 1000%). That is the one of main reasons the failure rate is so high.
     
    Last edited: May 27, 2023
    #16     May 27, 2023
  7. deaddog

    deaddog

    I'm quite happy with a paltry 20%. I'm well capitalized and taking a paltry 20% is how I got there.
    High on my list of why traders fail is unrealistic expectations.
     
    #17     May 27, 2023
  8. what type of trader are you?

    High level can you describe your strategy/strategies? (i.e. equities, futures, mean reversion, etc.)
     
    #18     May 27, 2023
  9. deaddog

    deaddog

    I trade equities. The strategy is simple, I buy stocks that are going up and hold them until they stop going up. I cut losses very quickly and don't hold losers in my portfolio.
     
    #19     May 27, 2023
  10. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    Some of the most vocal, confidant guys on here are likely mediocre to horrible traders. Those of us who have been around the block long enough can sniff out most of the legit guys versus the bs. The clues are there anyways; guys who talk about consistent high performance aren't realistic about trading and are either full of it or haven't traded long enough or hard enough to know. Those who deliver food or train traders full time they aren't meaningful successful traders. Those who make horrible calls about markets repetitively the same. Newer traders really need to beware of these characters listening to them leads to bad habits.

    You are legit. I may not agree 100% with your approach but many trading styles work. Specifically the tight stop losses wouldn't work in commodity stocks imo.
     
    #20     May 27, 2023