Do u think consistent winning every month is achievable?

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by innovest_11, Apr 20, 2008.

  1. I'm not the greatest of traders but I haven't had a down month in about year or so I think (went fulltime a little over a year ago). So yes, this is possible. The only time you encounter disaster in most cases is by your own doing - over leveraging, refusal to take a loss, etc. I think if you're truly trading for a living, these kinds of gamble just aren't acceptable anymore.

    I got bills to pay, future to save up for, etc. I can't be trying to prove that I'll eventually be right by holding on to a loser.

    My primary objective is to make money every day - being wrong is part of the job as long as my P&L is positive. I don't go for the over-leveraged lottery type of trades either.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is, once you get over yourself and realize losing money is no joke - you're a few steps farther from a trading disaster than most people.
     
    #11     Apr 20, 2008
  2. asap

    asap

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    #12     Apr 20, 2008
  3. Thanks for your reply, i switched to day trading from swing trading recently, and seems to work for me, that's why I'm wondering whether this is sustainable. Or I'm living in dreams.

    But the difference from swing trading is that day trading can be quite stressful, so stress that sometimes u can have cold sweat.

     
    #13     Apr 20, 2008
  4. ts888

    ts888

    so what you are saying is that if I purchase the Secret I will not be profitable every day of the year??? OK, damn, back to the drawing board.
     
    #14     Apr 20, 2008
  5. Yes.
    Every year.
    You are completely dead in the water if you are not net up each month. You need to be daily net profit making. Big trading success is not a jacking-around exercise; its not some sort of 'pick & mix' dogshit conducted when you happen to feel like it.

    This is a business to win at or fail at. You take no prisoners in this game if you want to win. You must obtain or devise a trading system that brings in what the market is offering each day and thats big points in any session when you trade it, open to EOD.
     
    #15     Apr 20, 2008
  6. As a scalper, here is my expectation:

    - Losing $ on any given trading day is a shitty day, but shit happens sometimes. I just have to make sure it doesn't happen more than 5% of my trading days.

    - Losing week should NEVER happen. Maybe once every several years perhaps....

    - Losing month is simply IMPOSSIBLE.






     
    #16     Apr 20, 2008
  7. orion19

    orion19

    One of the better analogies I've read is likening intraday trading to a casino business model. Casino's are successful because they don't gamble (they let the patrons do that). Instead, they make it a matter of risk management and probability. Most of the casino's patrons throw these two principles out the window and that's why it's such a lucrative business for the casino owner. The owner of a casino can't expect to win every hand of blackjack or win on every spin of the roulette wheel. In this light, you should not only anticipate losing trades (or losing days) but expect them. They should be accepted as legitimate business expenses. The casino owner knows that if he sticks to his system he'll have probability on his side and, even though he doesn't win every hand, he'll be profitable. Extend this idea to any time frame you like - numbers don't lie.
     
    #17     Apr 20, 2008
  8. wetnurse

    wetnurse

    True, but the typical trader doesn't have the pure mathamatical edge the casinos have and therein lies the rub. Also, the casino has an unlimited bankroll and a single bet maximum to insure they don't get busted by an exceptionally lucky player.

    Traders can only wish they had the odds working in their favor like a well capitalized casino that takes a "tax" from the gambler on each every single bet made.
     
    #18     Apr 20, 2008
  9. orion19

    orion19


    I can see where your point lies, but in relationship to this threads purpose I'd have to disagree. The focus is that, althougth traders lack market clarivoyance, the use of fundamentals, techincal indicators and the like allow for a comptetitve edge. That edge isn't a guarentee that a trade will be profitable, but if it is played well consistently and with proper money management techniques consistent profits can be acheived.
     
    #19     Apr 21, 2008


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    #20     Apr 21, 2008