Do only humans have souls that go to heaven or hell, or does it apply to all forms of life?

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by Frederick Foresight, Jun 16, 2023.

  1. cesfx

    cesfx

    Non believer here, but educated as such.
    Not for Christians and Muslims... Where humans (only) will be judged to access heaven.

    Then you have Christians saying that pets will come to heaven and one will be able to meet them in afterlife, but not the bible when referring to salvation as the way to heaven.
     
    #11     Jun 16, 2023
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  2. notagain

    notagain

    Only humans, made in god's image have the "ownership" of all other living things.
    If a human brings disgrace to himself or god's creation, it's off to hell with thee.
    If you do well, are perfectly perfect and magically absolve all guilts then heaven is your reward.
     
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    #12     Jun 16, 2023
  3. Why only humans? Are not animals made of similar stuff, and is their creator not the same loving being? Doesn't it seem capricious to you that an all-loving God would treat innocent animals different than he would people? Some animals are quite intelligent, and even kind. You've read about dolphins who have saved drowning swimmers. What about them? Why would God exclude such loving and intelligent creatures from eternal life? Some such animals are arguable better living beings than some humans. But, according to the religious, if a sinner, no matter how awful, shows contrition, then he or she is "saved." What gives?
     
    #13     Jun 16, 2023
  4. Right, I've heard about Christians and their pets. Is there a point of demarcation? Just mammal pets, or can we include reptiles, insects and so on? And once we're down that road, what about, say, protozoa? And what about animals that are not pets?

    This is what I'd like to hear theists comment on.
     
    #14     Jun 16, 2023
  5. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    This very well theologically researched radio play has it that only Chuckles the dolphin... But he didn't go to heaven.

    (Well worth the time, Andy Hamilton is a genius, better than any theology or philosophy course).

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0090y11
     
    #15     Jun 16, 2023
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  6. I may give it a listen one of these days when I have nothing to do. Religion doesn't figure prominently in my consciousness. I just got curious today between bouts of boredom about the rationalizations surrounding such beliefs.
     
    #16     Jun 16, 2023
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  7. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Old Harry's game is soo much better than ET. It's very much your humour. Especially this episode. About eight minutes in to mention of Chuckles but it's truly a genius show.

    Volunteer in a hospice. It won't help.
     
    #17     Jun 16, 2023
  8. What a question! I had never really thought about such a topic.
     
    #18     Jun 16, 2023
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  9. It’s a good question but probably not the weirdest part of religion tbf.
     
    #19     Jun 16, 2023
  10. %%
    Believer here + educated as such.
    Nowhere in the Bible does it say yea or nay , pets go to heaven, but could be.
    Animals will be heaven ,some anyway +Jesus Christ rides a horse.................................................
     
    #20     Jun 16, 2023
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