Do Jews have a future in America?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Pa(b)st Prime, Nov 24, 2006.

  1. man

    man

    stevie, i love you for that and the rest of your post. why are the
    lefties always the guys with the brains and the righties always
    those with hypocrite morality instead of ... brains?

    strange, whenever i am with real lefties (what i call left), i find
    myself very right of them. but when i am with the righties i am
    even more left from them. since i find "middle" quite boring i dare
    to invent: i am an uppy. just sounds fuckn' arrogant ... will learn
    to live with that ...
     
    #41     Jan 8, 2007
  2. An erudite and interesting rant. I disagree with it though.
    Firstly, there is nothing "unique" about the Jewish holocaust. There have been many attempts at planned ethnic cleansing, even recently we have had Srebrenica in Bosnia-Herzogovina, Albanians in Kosovo, Darfur etc.
    There have been many attempts also to exterminate a 'class'. Under Pol-Pot the 'educated and intellectual' class was effectively 'culled', same in the first few years of post- revolutionary Russia and many other instances.
    Over the years the Jews have participated in this filthy business no more and no less as much as 'non-Jews' have and should stop making out they have always been the victims of Gentile oppression.
    It is this Jewish sanctimoniousness which sickens me.
     
    #42     Jan 8, 2007
  3. man

    man

    problem is that such discussion tends to dminish the pain of one
    victim or the other, which i do not want to do. in terms of cruelty,
    planning, ethnical reaosons there are many cases of the same
    quality. in terms of size, organisational effort, cultural standing
    of where it happened, length of process and escpecially the level
    of organisation, i still think it is unique.

    read jewish literature. it is not about being holy, being superior.
    it is about poverty, pain, fear, survivorship and loss. you must bring
    critic to the right adressee, otherwise it itself must be critisised.
    THE jews are just, hurt, hurt, hurt. that is where they are coming
    from. and they want to spread that message in order to make it
    not happen again. thought about that as their main motivation
    for bringing the shoa to public attention?
     
    #43     Jan 8, 2007

  4. I have no desire to hurt anybody, only to permit truth to be spoken. Speaking such truth may offend some people, that is certain, but that is only pyschological harm, the same as is suffered when one's most treasured symbols are debased.

    Causing unjustifiable physical harm to people is wrong and loathesome.
     
    #44     Jan 8, 2007
  5. man

    man

    i agree ... in theory. ... :)
     
    #45     Jan 9, 2007