Do full-time forex traders exist or is it just make believe?

Discussion in 'Forex' started by zbojnik, Apr 4, 2013.

  1. contra

    contra

    Nice, always thought it was more like blackjack myself.
     
    #861     May 7, 2013
  2. contra

    contra

    well they cut, maybe soros is taking profits now ...
     
    #862     May 7, 2013
  3. So in your case, if you had a $10k balance you'd risk that entire amount on each trade?
     
    #863     May 7, 2013
  4. If that were my deposit, and I used my current strategy: yes. Realize, however, that if I did that I would have a savings account/investments totalling $10000/.05 = 200,000.
     
    #864     May 7, 2013
  5. Keep in mind however, that if you're in the habit of putting yourself in multiple trades at the same time, which is fine, your deposit will be adjusted accordingly to accommodate those multiple trades. The point is only that you deposit only enough to maintain your strategy, and no more.

    Oldtime was giving me a hard time earlier because he thinks I am gambling. He wants me to construct a plan that would allow that $1000 deposit to last a lot longer. However, to do that would require a lot smaller lot sizes and tigher stops. That's not my strategy. I am leaving most of my money out of the trading account and depositing only enough to service one trade that can sit there for several weeks while I go off to work where I can't watch my trade performance all of the time.
     
    #865     May 7, 2013
  6. I want that $1000 to last forever, eternally, withdrawing enough of your profits to pay bills and taxes. If you did it my way, you sweep 50% of the account each month over and above 1k. and yes, you would have to trade extremely small starting with just 1k. If that isn't your strategy you are one of the few trading forex who is truly undercapitalized, and there is no excuse for that

    now how does that compare to, everytime I have 1k, i send it to forex and just trade it until it is gone? oh well

    that is my baseball betting plan, I never worry about it becuase I sort of expect to lose the whole account each year (I'd have to be pretty damn good not to, because there is no money management, it's all just guessing.)
     
    #866     May 7, 2013
  7. Oldtime, you're simply not understanding. I'm sorry your mind can't handle this. $1000 is not my only money and I don't see the point of putting more than $1000 at a time in my forex account. I am only risking what I am prepared to lose and I trade accordingly. The fact that you risk only 3% of your account, for example, on a trade is absolutely identical to what I am doing. The difference is however that you leave the other 97% in your trading account. I don't. I leave only enough in my trading account to service that 3%. I make longer term trades.

    Trade until its gone? Sure, why not? In the meantime, I will have pulled a lot more in profit out of the account than $1000.
     
    #867     May 7, 2013
  8. maybe the reason I can't comprehend is because when I was a broker I saw a lot of options and commodity traders do exactly what you are doing and I saw how they ended up
     
    #868     May 7, 2013
  9. That's because most behave like Marketsurfer behaved. They win big; spend big; and its gone. I am saving and investing everything I win. This will continue whether I am earning $50/trade or $5000/trade.

    20 round trades now in 2013. 87% return all saved, trading account still has $1054.40
     
    #869     May 7, 2013
  10. pick a number, any number, let's say 10% of total liquid net worth and commit it to trading

    and that is how much money you have to trade for the rest of your life

    if it doesn't work out, you tried and you failed, and you don't throw any good money after bad

    if it works out, that trading account will be a lot more than 10%

    in my case, it ended up darn near 100%

    (actually, it took me a long time to put together a 30k trading account, and by then I had another 30k in my IRA)

    when I started trading full time, no more earned income to contribute to the IRA

    one of the larger mistakes I made in life was liquidating the IRA and paying all the taxes to pay off a divorce

    because oh how in love I was with the trading account at the time and I didn't want to touch it

    I manage a little money for friends and family (for free) and they all have IRA's, man that is nice, make a change anytime, no taxes.

    trading is a little more serious than just being a good guesser

    I just lucked out with forex and got on the right side of some very big trades before I knew what I was doing

    I wouldn't put those same trades on now that I have little more knowledge

    making a small business out of forex is quite enjoyable to me

    athough most days I think it is going to be the death of me
     
    #870     May 7, 2013