Do full-time forex traders exist or is it just make believe?

Discussion in 'Forex' started by zbojnik, Apr 4, 2013.


  1. Thanks for the explanation. Predatory genetic adaptive HFT has changed market structure forever regardless of what the charties state. One form or another of HFT is now 70% of all market volume--- Getting down to brass tacks and just the facts/- if you are a gifted market savant, maybe you can "read" charts to profits and wealth. I really have no way of knowing. Other than asking, are you wealthy from trading? If not, why not and have you considered your core beliefs/ methods may be fatally flawed? This isn't directly to you but to all of the chart TA traders. Man, there is tremendous wealth every second flowing about the market, have you taken enough for your own wealth? Maybe it's time to reevaluate why not, if not. Rhetoric will only prevail on message boards, your account knows the real truth. Peace, surf
     
    #591     Apr 28, 2013

  2. I think a warning is apropo for the idea of networking . While its a great idea, make certain there is real substance behind who you listen to. There is a tremendous number of sharks in this biz who will charm and attempt to mani49706945pulate the noobs with lies and mistruths. Be careful "networking" be certain that those who claim success actually have it and are not just trying to lure you, trick you into a purchase/ gain adoration, or whatever psych need they have.

    Bank traders going "retail" means to me opening up a retail dealer to fleece the public, not trading in the retail sense

    TA is used by hedge funds and banks but as a marketing tool not a real time decision making tool. What you see on "their" screens is what "they" want you to see. There's much deception in the market. Sure, there are exceptions to the rule but I am speaking in general. What you see/hear isn't always the way it is.

    My networking with truly successful traders totally changed my views of chartTA. As I learned that it isn't used by most successful traders and that the old TA divisions of banks ( if they even still exist) were always part of the marketing departments not research.

    Surf

    PS. As far as the third world always winning the FX contests--- I like to think of that scene in Willie Wonka and the chocolate factory where the rich girl has a room full of people opening up candy bars searching for the golden ticket. This is the third world FX contest players--- there is tremendously more of them so it's more likely one will win the contest lottery.
     
    #592     Apr 28, 2013
  3. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    This thread is way off topic now after the question has obviously been answered several times.
     
    #593     Apr 28, 2013
  4. Do full time, at home, retail FX traders who did not start from a position of wealth, but rather earned their wealth from retail FX, with no other income sources exist? that is the question. We all know bank FX traders are a common species.....
     
    #594     Apr 28, 2013
  5. 1min charts are clearly noise. There are definitely strategies that can make money off this noise, but retail TA scalping aint one of em, I'm actually with marketsurfer on this one, lol.:cool:
     
    #595     Apr 28, 2013
  6. drm7

    drm7

    I'm fairly sure that Dukascopy no longer accepts U.S.-based accounts, due to restrictive CFTC rules. It's a shame, actually.
     
    #596     Apr 28, 2013
  7. cornix

    cornix

    One of this thread participants, Wrbtrader has YEARS of every day track records posted on his site. He was around already when I was just starting to trade and he's still here, still shows profit almost every day from PA based day trading.

    How is that not a proof I don't know. :)
     
    #597     Apr 28, 2013
  8. I started with enough money invested to pay my bills, but for the last 10 months I have been living off just my forex profits (except some income I take to pay mom's healthcare.)

    But 10 months is not a very long track record

    and what I call a living you probably wouldn't call a living

    but it will probably take me all of 2013 just to take out 2012's high's

    it's amazng how easier trading goes, when you don't have a wife and kids who always need some unexpected expense each month

    I really think I could make a living trading nothing but forex starting with just 25k, maybe 50k just to be safe, and 2 years living expenses in the bank (and of course, a low interest high limit credit card.)

    but as I've said many times, my rent is only $500/mo, my car is paid for, and because I rent, I never have an unexpected expense, like last winter, when my furnace went out, all I had to do was punch 10 digits on my cell phone to the landlord, and they came out and fixed it that day, no cost to me.

    but then, they published a story in the newspaper about a young forex trader in London whose bar tab just for one night was 110k

    (one can only imagine what kind of margin he was trading on)

    I get nervous when it starts going up over 50%, but then again, that's what it is there for, it's just it's hard to dig yourself out of a hole at half the size
     
    #598     Apr 28, 2013
  9. Daring

    Daring

    A 1min chart has a higher frequency of noise but I would not label it as "clearly noise".

    Instead, you have to be alert, and constantly monitor its quality, to filter it's periods of clarity out periods where reads are unreliable, something that is also present in any time frame, including slow ones, it just so happens that this filtering must be done more often because it is, afterall, a faster chart.
     
    #599     Apr 28, 2013
  10. ??? I traded ES for many years just for one tick, $12.50, maybe $37.50

    a point and a quarter was a position trade

    and these were all just one lots, all on a pc with aol dial up

    but you know, at the end of the day you would often get caught wih a large position of big losers

    and that's when I started swinging

    scalping is a young man's game and everybody should do it (when they are young.)

    I would not want to be trading forex with tight stops (but then again, it didn't take me long when I was trading ES to learn, don't be a small retail trader trading anything on a computer with tight stops.), no matter how young I was

    that spread really adds up, and the fewer times I have to pay it the better for me

    also, unlike ES, it never pays to panic, in forex, panic is usually just a daily occurance, and it usually occurs in less than 2 minutes

    when I started, those big candles really freaked me out, until I learned, if they are big and want to buy, the first thing they do is sell everything they have, then start buying at a better price

    and also, in forex, almost everything is priced in about 3 months (if not more) ahead

    after a while, minute by minute, day by day, week by week, month by month (and who knows, I am too new to know if it is year by year) to see the big retail move.

    there are plenty of good scalping opportunites in forex every 2 hours, but you need to give up that crazy notion that scalping and stops are compatible. Scalpers don't get stopped out, they just take devestating losses, or take it home and stare at the ceiling all night wondering, "Now what the hell am I going to do?"
     
    #600     Apr 28, 2013