Do full-time forex traders exist or is it just make believe?

Discussion in 'Forex' started by zbojnik, Apr 4, 2013.

  1. Had to make use of my google skills:

    "Earn a crust" is British, Australian and New Zealand slang for to earn a living.
    Found op http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/browse/ZE.HTM
     
    #271     Apr 22, 2013
  2. cornix

    cornix

    I feel like a loser now. :D
     
    #272     Apr 22, 2013
  3. achilles28

    achilles28

    :D hmmm...now I'm thinking a bit. You inspired me. What timeframe(s) should i look at?
     
    #273     Apr 22, 2013
  4. MillieJ

    MillieJ

    So you guys are all trading manually or i can find you as well sending signals, like on zulutrade?
     
    #274     Apr 22, 2013
  5. cornix

    cornix

    I tried it in 2012 as you probably remember from my posts in "Zulutrade" thread here on ET, but things didn't work as expected technically.

    So I switched to NQ and direct management of OPM accounts via futures clearing firm. No technical issues ever since. :)
     
    #275     Apr 22, 2013
  6. You guys just don't get it. The Dealers are your enemy--- this is from boston tech business plan for FX dealers---- it doesn't matter if its straight thru processing--what you erroneously think are ECN's or the traditional dealer model------

    Wake up folks,


    In the Financial Model section that follows, we’ll give more detail on these numbers.
     Closed Loop Dealing Desk - The second business model is to take more of the risk.
    The customer buys from the broker and sells to the broker. If the customer makes
    money, the broker loses money, and the contrary. Most small retail customers have no
    experience and 95% of them WILL lose money. In this model, which is more like
    gambling for the customer, most customers spend 95% of their deposits in 2-3 months.
    This model is simpler, but riskier. Here, most customers act like gamblers, and your
    model is to act as the “house”. If they start with a deposit of $10,000, because of betting
    psychologymost end up losing 95% of that investment in 2-3 months. They take small
    profits, and let losses run. Thus, this is a “non recurring” customer model, in that most
    customers lose their cash, and do not come back with additional investments. Ongoing
    customer acquisition is thus very important.
    In this model, some of the more experienced or savvy customers will grow frustrated that
    they are not dealing with Straight Through Processing. Segmenting these customers out
    and dealing with them through a Straight Through Processing model is usually a good
    idea. Below we discuss such hybrid models.
    Estimated profit
    from risk
    Percentage lost over 1 year
    -25% 25% 50% 75% 90%
    Total number of
    deposits
    1,500,000 -$375,000 $375,000 $750,000 $1,125,000 $1,350,000
    5,250,000 -$1,312,500 $1,312,500 $2,625,000 $3,937,500 $4,725,000
    9,000,000 -$2,250,000 $2,250,000 $4,500,000 $6,750,000 $8,100,000
    12,750,000 -$3,187,500 $3,187,500 $6,375,000 $9,562,500 $11,475,000
    16,500,000 -$4,125,000 $4,125,000 $8,250,000 $12,375,000 $14,850,000
    20,250,000 -$5,062,500 $5,062,500 $10,125,000 $15,187,500 $18,225,000
    24,000,000 -$6,000,000 $6,000,000 $12,000,000 $18,000,000 $21,600,000
    27,750,000 -$6,937,500 $6,937,500 $13,875,000 $20,812,500 $24,975,000
    31,500,000 -$7,875,000 $7,875,000 $15,750,000 $23,625,000 $28,350,000
    37,500,000 -$9,375,000 $9,375,000 $18,750,000 $28,125,000 $33,750,000START YOUR OWN BROKERAGE (SYOB) BUSINESS PLAN
    ©BOSTON TECHNOLOGIES WWW.BOSTONTECHNOLOGIES.COM PAGE 15
     Hybrid
    Mod
    Models
    Send some customers to the liquidity providers and keep some in house
    For all customers keep some trades in house and send some to the
    liquidity providers
    Send all trades of size X or larger to the liquidity provider
     
    #276     Apr 22, 2013
  7. cornix

    cornix

    Including companies like IB? Do you think IB also trades against it's clients who trade forex?
     
    #277     Apr 22, 2013
  8. Do they use the MT4 platform? The platform is designed to eliminate any advangtage you think you have--- I have the material from the dealers and the MT4 consultants---- in house platforms are likely the same or worse---- seriously, folks, you might as well be playing slot machines. surf
     
    #278     Apr 22, 2013
  9. cornix

    cornix

    LOL... I don't know anyone among my buddy traders who uses MT4. Maybe just for some charting, but doubt about that even. :)

    MT4 is hardly suitable for quick entry/exit/position management.
     
    #279     Apr 22, 2013
  10. Funny, its the most popular FX platform on earth. i guess if you are using reuters3000 and accessing the interbank market directly you are on a fair playing field--- however, my data only pertains to the MT4 platform. surf
     
    #280     Apr 22, 2013