this is how part of a day looks to a person trading as described above. apparently I forgot to post something at some time. Maybe not. Maybe a person can't find my comment. Over 146 minutes of a day 390 minutes long, one of the trends during that day occurred. Below was the result. most do not know how to calculate the ATR. So look up how the ATR works. http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=3652747 If you looked at the print and the AIR response to the IRS, ask yourself what portion of your annual income was made during those 146 minutes. ask purposeful questions to forward your knowledge and skills if you are keeping up with others.