Do arbitrage opportunities exist for retail investors?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Victory5, Oct 29, 2015.

  1. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    The definition is: No chance of loss, possible chance of profit.
     
    #11     Oct 29, 2015
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  2. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Jesus. The ignorance here is amazing.

    Risk Arb is a form of pair trading but it's not a form of statistical arbitrage.
    There are stat arb strategies that are not pair trades.
     
    #12     Oct 29, 2015
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  3. Give me an example of an arb that's risk free and I'll tell you how it's not..... This strict definition is not useful... It's more aligned with the ideology that you can't make money as a retailer arbing liquity differentials or anything else... Trading dispersion or any pair trading... What do you think the market makers are doing really... Taking risk!!!!
     
    #13     Oct 29, 2015
  4. Guile

    Guile

    Please watch your tone. Marketsurfer is a renowned asset manager and knower of really important people. Ask him, he'll tell you himself. If he says, risk arbitrage is equivalent to stat arb, then you should believe him. He has almost 11000 posts. That makes him an expert on all things trading.
     
    #14     Oct 29, 2015
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  5. Trader13

    Trader13

    Pure Arb is an HFT/infrastructure play. There will always be opportunities for Stat Arb but they are diminishing with higher correlations as indexing moves most markets in unison.
     
    #15     Oct 29, 2015
  6. Stat arb can be thought of as generalized, multi-instrument, pairs trading. Risk arb is different; in the hf space it's not spoken of as a pairs strategy.
     
    #16     Oct 29, 2015
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  7. Semantics..... This isn't really worth talking about in this respect... Some talk about trading and think baseball cards or coins...
     
    #17     Oct 29, 2015
  8. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    This is not true marketsurfer.

    Risk Arb can be pairs traded or not (if your deal is stock for stock or stock for cash). My point is that stat arb does not equal pairs trading as proven that risk arb is a form of pairs trading that is clearly not stat arb.

    For that matter stat arb does not have to be traded as pairs. You can have stat arb strategies that aren't relative value trades. Often it is pair traded, but that doesn't mean by definition it is.
     
    #18     Oct 29, 2015
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  9. Well, I can't fix stupid, but anyway no one in the hedgefund space talks about riskarb as a form of "pairs trading." The term just isn't used that way.
     
    #19     Oct 29, 2015
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  10. Yeah, not sure where these arrogant folks get their information but my bet is they skim a book or two and become instant geniuses.
     
    #20     Oct 29, 2015