DMI/ADX consistently works

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by nyc-hotshot, Aug 22, 2003.

  1. I am not an expert....But I think it was intended for daily bars...

    Michael B.


     
    #261     Feb 23, 2004
  2. Try a time series forecast indicator set at half the length....

    Michael B.



     
    #262     Feb 23, 2004
  3. #263     Feb 23, 2004
  4. I will need to backtrack through this thread, but I remember that there was a problem with using one of the indicators. It seems to me that on the open, one of the indicators did not have enough bar data to operate correctly. So you were sort of in the dark for the first 10 bars or so (unless you used a prop version of the indicator from a specific broker). Hey if I am wrong, so be it. I will review the thread and find the specfic posts. I am interested in your thoughts on this. Best Regards, Steve46
     
    #264     Feb 23, 2004
  5. Yes it works nicely for swing-trading.

    I use Daily Bars.

    I use the 22 period ADX/PDI/MDI and confirm with the 32 period ADX/PDI/MDI. If both have an uptrending ADX line and the PDI is >MDI and the ADX >MDI its an entry long. Also a great entry is when the ADX is below the MDI and the PDI and has started up at least 4 steps...enter long if the PDI>MDI after the ADX rises to its 4th step! You will get in early on a nice move.

    Exit when ADX slopes down. but if its in between the MDI and the PDI and the PDI>MDI then stay in even if the ADX is going down...stay in until the MDI>PDI. You will avoid chop this way and can use theis indicator to exit with too. If the ADX line is above the MDI and the PDI and starts to slope down then get out.

    Michael B.

    P.S.I use this to go long only...have not needed to go short....

    P.S.S. try adding the "time series forecast" indicator to the ADX/PDI/MDI indicator pane the interval (10 and 15...it works great as a directional confirmation.... I use the free charts at prophet.net







     
    #265     Feb 23, 2004
  6. hayman

    hayman

    OK, I have programmed this again into WealthLab, using Dr. Elder's rules, which were effectively posted by Electric Savant in the last post (I do not use multiple confirming periods, however). I cannot get a higher winning % that 38 % on any NYSE stock or ETF (SPY, e.g.). I'm not sure this is a viable system. I used Daily Bars by the way. Can anyone see a flaw in my logic ????

    Code:
    function ADX4Step (Bar: Integer): boolean;
    begin
       Result := ((ADX(Bar,14) - ADX(Bar-1,14)) > 4) or
                 ((ADX(Bar,14) - ADX(Bar-2,14)) > 4) or
                 ((ADX(Bar,14) - ADX(Bar-3,14)) > 4) or
                 ((ADX(Bar,14) - ADX(Bar-4,14)) > 4) or
                 ((ADX(Bar,14) - ADX(Bar-5,14)) > 4)
    end;
    
    var Bar: integer;
    var DX_Val, ADX_Val, PDI_Val, MDI_Val: float;
    var DX_Val_Last, ADX_Val_Last, PDI_Val_Last, MDI_Val_Last: float;
    var tmp: string;
    
    tmp = '';
    
    for Bar := 14 to BarCount - 1 do
    begin
      PortfolioSynch(Bar, '');
    
      DX_Val_Last := DX(Bar-1,14);
      DX_Val := DX(Bar,14);
      ADX_Val_Last := ADX(Bar-1,14);
      ADX_Val := ADX(Bar,14);
      PDI_Val_Last := DIPlus(Bar-1,14);
      PDI_Val := DIPlus(Bar,14);
      MDI_Val_Last := DIMinus(Bar-1,14);
      MDI_Val := DIMinus(Bar,14);
      
      if not LastPositionActive then
      begin
         If (PDI_Val > MDI_Val) and
            (((ADX_Val > ADX_Val_Last) and (ADX_Val > MDI_Val)) OR
             ((ADX_Val > ADX_Val_Last) and (ADX_Val < PDI_Val) and (ADX_Val < MDI_Val) and
              (ADX4Step(Bar) = True))) then
         begin
             BuyAtMarket(Bar+1, tmp);
         end
            else
               If (MDI_Val > PDI_Val) and
                  (((ADX_Val > ADX_Val_Last) and (ADX_Val > PDI_Val)) OR
                   ((ADX_Val > ADX_Val_Last) and (ADX_Val < PDI_Val) and (ADX_Val < MDI_Val))) then
               begin
                   ShortAtMarket(Bar+1, tmp);
               end;
      end
      else
         begin
            if PositionLong(LastPosition) then
            begin
               If ((ADX_Val < ADX_Val_Last) and (ADX_Val > PDI_Val) and (ADX_Val > MDI_Val)) OR
                  (MDI_Val > PDI_Val) then
               begin
                   SellAtMarket(Bar+1, Lastposition, tmp);
               end;
            end
            else
               if PositionShort(LastPosition) then
               begin
               If ((ADX_Val < ADX_Val_Last) and (ADX_Val > PDI_Val) and (ADX_Val > MDI_Val)) OR
                  (PDI_Val > MDI_Val) then
                  begin
                      CoverAtMarket(Bar+1, LastPosition, tmp);
                  end;
               end;
         end;
    end;
    
     
    #266     Feb 23, 2004
  7. The universe of stocks need to be low volatile stocks....try going long only on uptrending stocks.

    Michael B.



     
    #267     Feb 23, 2004
  8. Hi hayman,

    You got ElectricSavant's point? Good old Elder apparently didn't tell us everything. You still seem to have to learn how to find "low volatile stocks" and to be able to recognize "uptrending".

    Unfortunetely, good ElectricSavant didn't show us a program to spot uptrending in low volatile stocks. :D

    hayman, keep on working. You alone can find the answers. I also have stumbled on many crazy useless things in the past. ET is often not of much help in clearing up the fog. You seem to ask the right questions though.

    Be good,

    nononsense
     
    #268     Feb 24, 2004
  9. Well....

    Use http://www.tickerank.com

    Rank your universe for "ADX/PDI/DMI sensitive stocks" by ranking with certain criteria....

    Michael B.

    P.S. The ranking criteria for users of this program is available.....ask and you shall receive....




     
    #269     Feb 24, 2004
  10. Hi ElectricSavant,

    Thx. for your prompt help.

    How do we go about spotting what you call "uptrending" (useful with the ADX and low volatile stocks)?

    What kind of improvement can hayman expect beyond the 38% figure he was now deploring?

    Thx. again,

    nononsense
     
    #270     Feb 24, 2004