Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ZZZzzzzzzz, May 12, 2006.

  1. Reported by J.R. Berry

    (Cayce) - Inside the walls of Brookland-Cayce High School, you expect students to be treated equally. But a viewer tip led News19 online where a teacher's comments left us asking questions.

    "These sorts of things are going to upset people, but the truth can be very upsetting," said Brookland-Cayce High School teacher Winston McCuen.

    That truth, at least according to McCuen, is that black people are inferior to whites.

    "Intellectually, yes they are," said McCuen. "This has been confirmed over and over, and this is a generalization. Again, there are some blacks who are more intelligent than individual whites. But as a rule, that is true. I-Q tests prove it over, and over and over."

    News19's J.R. Berry asked McCuen, "Do you think slavery in America was a good thing? "Yes," said McCuen. "In America there was a rational assessment saying listen, if we give these people freedom right as they are and you have to go back to see how they were, you can't assume they were like us.

    <img src=http://www.bbc.co.uk/liverpool/localhistory/journey/american_connection/slavery/timeline_lead.jpg>

    J.R. asked, "How were they?" "They were coming out of the jungles," said McCuen. "They had been enslaving each other for centuries in Africa, and in terms of being used to rule of law, they knew none of that."

    <img src=http://userwww.sfsu.edu/~rhernand/slavery.gif>

    No doubt about it, Winston McCuen has controversial opinions. But do his views make it into the classroom? He teaches Latin at Brookland-Cayce. He told J.R. that most of his students are white.

    J.R. asked," Is this something that enters your classroom, something you tell your students?" "I'm a Latin teacher, so I'm not teaching politics or history," said McCuen. "I'm just teaching Latin."

    "We got off subject one day and he mentioned that slavery happened and he mentioned the Vice-President around Andrew Jackson's time, and that's how we got off on slavery," said 9th-grader Candace Carol. The Vice-President she was referring to is John C. Calhoun; someone Winston McCuen admires.

    "John C. Calhoun: the greatest South Carolinian in terms of political understanding and wisdom," said McCuen. "And he argued that the institution of slavery was a positive good, and he called it a great good and it was good."

    <img src=http://userwww.sfsu.edu/~rhernand/images/20001220SlaveScars01%5B1%5D.jpg>

    Before talking with us, McCuen posted his views on an internet Web site called "American Renaissance." Most of the comments on the site are aimed at blacks. McCuen's comments are no exception. For instance, last August, McCuen said, "There is no apology to be made for black slavery in America. Why should today's whites apologize for the wisdom of their ancestors?"

    J.R. commented to McCuen, "There will be some people that will say those are racist remarks." "They can call them what they will," said McCuen. "But if they call it racist, I just say it's true and you've got to deal with that. I have a responsibility to speak the truth; I believe it is."

    J.R. asked, "So if you have black students in your class, do you look down on them?" "No, "said McCuen. "I try to do the best I can with every student I've got."

    J.R. asked, "But you just said they were inferior?" "You try to actualize whatever potential is there," said McCuen.

    This isn't the first time Winston McCuen has been in the news. In 1999, he was a history teacher at St. Joseph's, a private high school in Greenville. McCuen hung a Confederate flag in his classroom. When parents complained, he was told by school officials to take it down. He didn't, and he was fired.

    "Our board of trustees ran screaming into the night saying 'take it down, take it down,' and I refused to because you need to present different views in the classroom," said McCuen.

    That was seven years ago. Today, the Emory University graduate is on administrative leave after News19 informed Lexington District Two about his comments. He won't be back next year. But he wasn't coming back anyway because of a certification issue. Though the district declined an on-camera interview, they did issue the following statement:

    "District officials have not seen the video done by WLTX, but we are now aware of certain web sites. The District cannot dictate the personal political views of its employees. The positions
    of Dr. McCuen are not the positions of Lexington School District Two.

    The parents of our district have entrusted us with the education of their children, and we
    continually strive to foster a positive learning environment for all of our students. The District is investigating the matter and will take appropriate action if warranted. Dr. McCuen is currently on administrative leave. For unrelated reasons, he will not be teaching in Lexington School District Two next year."

    While McCuen's days with Lexington Two are numbered, McCuen says his time in the classroom is far from over.

    "Is that a problem?" said McCuen. "I hope not. "Am I not supposed to make a living because of my views? Or should I just be wiped out or what, and people like me, what do you think?"

    So, what do you think? News19 wants to hear from you. To email us, just click here. And to read viewer comments, click here.

  2. Alabama candidate for AG disputes Holocaust, is coming to NJ
    Associated Press Writer

    May 12, 2006, 3:56 PM EDT

    BIRMINGHAM, Ala. -- A Democratic candidate for Alabama attorney general denies the Holocaust occurred and said Friday he will speak this weekend in New Jersey to a "pro-white" organization that is widely viewed as being racist.

    Larry Darby concedes his views are radical, but he said they should help him win wide support among Alabama voters as he tries to "reawaken white racial awareness" with his campaign against Mobile County District Attorney John Tyson.

    The state Democratic chairman, Joe Turnham, said the party became aware of some of Darby's views only days ago and was considering what to do about his candidacy.

    "Any type of hatred toward groups of people, especially for political gain, is completely unacceptable in the Alabama Democratic Party," said Turnham.

    Speaking in an interview with The Associated Press, Darby said he believes no more than 140,000 Jewish people died in Europe during World War II, and most of them succumbed to typhus.

    Historians say about 6 million Jews were slaughtered by the Nazis, but Darby said the figure is a false claim of the "Holocaust industry."

    "I am what the propagandists call a Holocaust denier, but I do not deny mass deaths that included some Jews," Darby said. "There was no systematic extermination of Jews. There's no evidence of that at all."

    Darby said he will speak Saturday near Newark, N.J., at a meeting of National Vanguard, which bills itself as an advocate for the white race. Some of his campaign materials are posted on the group's Internet site.

    "It's time to stop pushing down the white man. We've been discriminated against too long," Darby said in the interview.

    New Jersey's Democratic State Committee chief on Friday decried Darby's planned visit, and said in a statement that denying the Holocaust was "historical blasphemy."

    "Hate and prejudice are destructive qualities that are not welcome in New Jersey and should be condemned wherever they occur," said party Chairman Joe Cryan. "Mr. Darby should turn around before crossing the Jersey stateline and then give thought to turning his abhorrent attitudes around as well."

    A poll published last month indicated the Democratic race for attorney general was up for grabs. The survey showed 21 percent favored Tyson to 12 percent for Darby, but 68 percent of respondents were undecided.

    Darby, founder of the Atheist Law Center and a longtime supporter of separation of church and state, said he has no money for campaign advertising and has made only a few campaign speeches.

    Tyson said aside from his views on race and the Holocaust, Darby also has publicly advocated legalizing drugs and shooting all illegal immigrants.

    "I am astonished as anyone has ever been that anyone is running for public office in Alabama on that platform," said Tyson. "I do not take him as a serious candidate."

    Turnham said the party began an investigation last week after hearing about some of Darby's comments in a television interview. While the party supports the free-speech rights of any candidate, Turnham said some of Darby's views appear to be in "a realm of thought that is unacceptable."

    "We have Holocaust survivors and families of Holocaust survivors here in Alabama, and many of them are members of the Democratic Party," said Turnham.

    The winner of the Democratic primary on June 6 will face either Republican Attorney General Troy King or Mark Montiel, who is opposing King in the GOP primary.
  3. - Fire the teacher.

    - Dont vote for said candidate.

    - Hey ZZZ... strangest thing has been happening... my posts haven't been getting deleted! Man, I've been a happier person lately:)
  4. Start posting what you previously posted, see what happens....

  5. saxon


    Zzz...why title the thread "Dixie"? Is your world so flat and dull that you can't imagine racism existing in any other region of the country than the south? Maybe just maybe, there is racism in your own town?? So you could have just as well titled this thread, "San Diego". (has no ring to it, though)

    Ahh...the world according to Z10: (so simple)

    Politically: all evil is confined to the Republican party.

    Geographically: all evil is confined to the south.

    Philosophically: all truth is confined to Z10's imagination.


    The self-indulgent mental illness of a stressed-out world.
  6. The articles are about individuals from Alabama and South Carolina....land of Dixie...and Confederate flags...among other things....

  7. ZZZZZzz, do you believe there is anything good to say about the Southern states?
  8. hcour

    hcour Guest

    Actually the article is about one man from SC, and one man from Alabama (who will be speaking to racists in NJ, btw, but the title of the thread doesn't refer to racism in the northern states, of course).

    Yeah, "Dixie", where we're all just a bunch of dumb redneck racists who marry our cousins and proudly fly our confederate flags on our front porches.

    Thank god racism doesn't exist in other parts of the country like NYC or California or, god forbid, Iowa.

    "Dixie" for the title of this thread? Why of course, good ole Southern Bashing has been the only politically correct form of bigotry for years now.

  9. While white racists like those exposed in the above two articles <b>do</b> indeed represent white southerners in general, Islamic terrorists from Hamas and Hezbollah are rare fanatics who in no way represent adherents to the peaceful religion of Islam (even though the two terror groups win middle east elections).

    <i>-The world according to ZZZ</i>
  10. The geography of the United States Of America includes the Middle East?

    Welcome to the vision of the neocons and their red herring/strawman fallacies....

    #10     May 14, 2006