Divergences

Discussion in 'Journals' started by romik, Jul 2, 2006.

  1. 4re

    4re

    Nothing exciting with ES today but CAL has gone up about $1.75 since I put my option play on it. Might make some cash on this one soon.
     
    #31     Jul 10, 2006
  2. 4re

    4re

    Romik,
    Well the BRD that we were seeing this weekend kicked into high gear this morning when Merril Lynch downgraded all airlines overnight. On Friday I was telling my brother that I was seeing a BRD developing and he kept saying he doesn't really look at any indicators just at the chart and S/R. So that is when and why I asked you about it.

    I am market neutral with a straddle on this so it doesn't really matter to me if it goes up or down. I just want movement.

    Thanks,
    Gary
     
    #32     Jul 11, 2006
  3. romik

    romik

    so you can't lose in either case? How does that work?
     
    #33     Jul 11, 2006
  4. 4re

    4re

    Well you can lose on time decay. But if you find a stock that moves a lot. For example CAL or the Q's. On CAL I bought the 25.00 puts and the 35.00 calls. I bought September contracts while the price was right about 30.00. If either side get to the strike price before September I'll make about 100%. There is a little more to it but that is the cliff note version. On my Q's play that I did recently I made about 10% on the call side before the price started falling (Then sold my calls) and made another 30% on the puts. Could have made more if I would've stayed in but the puts but I wanted to bank my money and set up the CAL play. So I made a total of 40% on my initial investment in about a week.
     
    #34     Jul 11, 2006
  5. romik

    romik

    nice one, thanks for the information.
     
    #35     Jul 11, 2006
  6. boro45

    boro45

    Romik,

    As you suggested in 4re's thread, I decided to come over here and poke around.

    I've looked at all the stock traded that you've posted in here and I'm pretty sure that without exception you're long plays are on stocks that are below their 50 and/or 200 smas and the shorts are on stocks above those averages.

    Have you looked at this in conjunction with your divergences? Can be like stepping in front of a freight train or catching the proverbial falling knife.

    Very intriguing work, though.

    Thanks for the thread.
     
    #36     Jul 11, 2006
  7. romik

    romik

    Divergences are reversal patterns and yes one can make comparisons to catching a falling knife. You either learn to follow a trend and/or learn to trade reversal patterns. There are tons of information you have to learn about either of them and actually test via simulation and live trading is of most importance, so to summarise, please go to the first page and click on the link. There you would find some essential info on what is a divergence. Secondly, there are only 6 pages in this journal and I have explained already how I set my PT1. PT1 is the most important level, as PT2/3 if not reached I would exit at entry and by doing so would lock in profits on 50% overall position.

    Average price PT1: that is a very simple, though effective methodology. Let's assume you have a divergence in BLD in RSI, where RSI has made higher lows, when price has made lower lows. I basically look at the average price (H+L)/2 at the time when RSI has made its 1st low in the divergence formation and set PT1 slightly lower than that average. Next PT2/3 are based on either support or resistance, depending on whether it is a BRD or BLD.

    Let me know if you need some more info. Thanks.
     
    #37     Jul 11, 2006
  8. boro45

    boro45

    Thanks for the clarification. Sorry if you had to rehash some previously explained info.
     
    #38     Jul 11, 2006
  9. romik

    romik

    No problem.
     
    #39     Jul 11, 2006
  10. romik

    romik

    PnL: LU -6.8%
     
    #40     Jul 11, 2006