Divergences

Discussion in 'Journals' started by romik, Jul 2, 2006.

  1. Hi !

    I haven't yet looked thru much of your journal, but I found it interesting that you were negative on IPG yet made $$ on rise in its price. If your short was for an equal size as your hedge call buy there's no way that could be, so what's up?
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    Quote from romik:

    SHORT - IPG (NYSE) Interpublic Grp of Cos

    Hedge: Buy 75 Oct $10.00 Calls @ 0.25

    Current: $9.83
    Average down: ~$10.17
    PT1: $9.10
    PT2: $8.00
    PT3: N/A
    Stop: ~$10.30
    BRD in HIST on a daily chart attached, but daily chart is in an uptrend with a possible double bottom in the mid $7 range. Possible reward outweighs risk here. I would say that this could be a risky trade when looking on the daily chart.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=IPG
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    Position covered $10.32

    -3.2% adjusted after averaging @ $10.17

    Oct 10 calls remain open.

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    75 Oct 2006 10 calls sold @ $0.50 for 100% profit. Due to this outcome the overall position's PnL has been adjusted to:

    +0.53%
     
    #201     Oct 23, 2006
  2. Hi !

    I haven't yet looked thru much of your journal, but I found it interesting that you were negative on IPG yet made $$ on rise in its price. If your short was for an equal size as your hedge call buy there's no way that could be, so what's up?
    =================================
    Quote from romik:

    SHORT - IPG (NYSE) Interpublic Grp of Cos

    Hedge: Buy 75 Oct $10.00 Calls @ 0.25

    Current: $9.83
    Average down: ~$10.17
    PT1: $9.10
    PT2: $8.00
    PT3: N/A
    Stop: ~$10.30
    BRD in HIST on a daily chart attached, but daily chart is in an uptrend with a possible double bottom in the mid $7 range. Possible reward outweighs risk here. I would say that this could be a risky trade when looking on the daily chart.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=IPG
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Position covered $10.32

    -3.2% adjusted after averaging @ $10.17

    Oct 10 calls remain open.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    75 Oct 2006 10 calls sold @ $0.50 for 100% profit. Due to this outcome the overall position's PnL has been adjusted to:

    +0.53%
     
    #202     Oct 23, 2006
  3. romik

    romik

    50k allocation per position, -3.2% on 50k and +100% on 75 calls. What I can say here is that my decision to allocate so many or so few options as hedge vs a 50k position is a mystery to me as to others. If anybody has any advice on ratios I am all ears.

     
    #203     Oct 24, 2006
  4. rockn

    rockn

    Some charts I'm watching

    <img src="http://stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=CHTR&p=60&b=3&g=0&i=p58772468903&a=88014002&r=8535">


    <img src="http://stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=RHAT&p=60&b=3&g=1&i=p68494546253&a=88013741&r=4819">


    <img src="http://stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=NT&p=D&b=3&g=0&i=p93072392021&a=87285472&r=4149">
     
    #204     Oct 24, 2006
  5. romik

    romik

    Motherf.....! That's just one big problem with stocks - gaps on earnings and since that position was not covered by a call hedge it is pretty screwed at the moment. Obviously, all future positions are protected, this one wasn't. Good job these are paper trades. Up 14% on open.
     
    #205     Oct 25, 2006
  6. 4re

    4re

    OUCH!!! That hurts.
     
    #206     Oct 25, 2006
  7. 4re

    4re

    Romik,
    Today I closed my position on the Q's. I am now neutral. I closed at 42.25 giving me a realized profit of about 130% or 13K.

    Gary
     
    #207     Nov 1, 2006
  8. romik

    romik

    That's pretty awesome, you still holding puts?
     
    #208     Nov 1, 2006
  9. 4re

    4re

    Nope, they expired worthless last month. That is part of the reason I sold my calls today. I think today could have been a turning point and if that is the case I'll be going short.
     
    #209     Nov 1, 2006
  10. romik

    romik

    -6.37%
     
    #210     Nov 22, 2006