Yeah Buffet did it with discretion but he invests for life (never sells). Yeah Soros did it with discretion but he apparently relies on back pain as an indicator so yeah i think he qualifies as an Enlightened person. You can have much greater runs going discretionary but you'll probably give it all back - or smarten up and move into another line of business with your profits. And don't give me that systematic discretionary - best of both worlds crap. Only Buddhas should trade discretionary - they can handle it.