=================== RE; Repeating pattern - Payday-someday NurseB; Actually one of my strangest failures in 2008; its never happened before, getting a great[not just good[, great buy in a great car, in AUG,SEPT.Trading TIME, for nice cars. Now i was holding out for a great buy/great gas milage then; but also shopping for a TM, NSANY, HMC or GM-SATURN.The fact that bankruptcy [protection, chap11]would be good for GM,related to Saturn , wouldnt stop me from buying a great deal on Saturn A friend of mine bought new Chrysler, when they got in touble; gov bail out last time.Worked out fine........................................................... So actually i spent a huge amount of time shopping,AUG,SEPT,OCT; enjoyed it. But the big payoff may come now,2009. Payday someday!! Enjoying a book; ''How to sell..............'' by Joe Girard[Guiness book of records] I got so ticked off with impolite/ignorant ''home run hitters/LOL salesmen/managers''; thinking , really about selling cars for about 11 hours per week Even if i had achieved all finanuial goals in 2008[did not]; good trading can be boring, thinking about car market again.